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Default 1001 things that won' t save the planet. Or even come close.

Jules wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 23:59:09 +0000, Francis Turton wrote:

Jules wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 17:36:48 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
But once everybody realises that going shopping and going to work is a
total waste of time and money, and you can do more huddled over a DSL
modem at home, the question should largely become irrelevant.
Precisely. The problem shouldn't be one of "how do we get from A to B
efficiently", but "how do we avoid the need to get to B in the first
place"... and so far very few people seem to be worrying about that.

The whole concept of going to a central place to shop or work is one of
our own making, and in a lot of cases it's one that we could choose
to solve if we so wanted.

So how does transport-free shopping work then?


Walking or cycling work. Driving ten miles to a big superstore doesn't.

Also, though I suspect that cam.misc may not be representative in this
respect, research (and common sense) suggests that without regular human
contact, most people get depressed and go nuts.


That's half the problem; society has evolved such that there's very
little human contact *now* - people get in their cars and go places,
do what they need to do, and come home again, with very little
beneficial human interaction. There's little sense of community, of
people helping those immediately around them, purely because they
never even bother to interact with those people.



Personally I feel more connected with an internet connection than
sitting at a desk in any office..and a hellofa sight more productive,