On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 20:11:22 -0600, flipper wrote:

And, I dare say, some would argue your definition to be arbitrary with
no philosophical or scientific basis.

This is simply not true.

There's one very sound, logical, scientific and legal principle at work.

If it's inside the woman, it's not a person. (Unless the woman herself
says so. It is, after all, her right to do with it whatever she
wishes - if she wants to declare it a "pre-person", that's entirely
her prerogative, and not that of the church or the state.)

Once she poops it out, it is, in fact, a person, and she doesn't
own it any more, even though she's going to be stuck with its
upkeep for the rest of her life.

Cheers!
Rich