Arnold Walker wrote:
"Balanced View" wrote in message
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Arnold Walker wrote:
That is the reason we should ban them from all sources.
Since it would be more brave for a military or police person to talk
thier way out of every problem.
Imagine how brave a soldier would be to rush a machine gun or rpg site
with a wooden toothpick.



Now you are being totally ridiculous. To compare a combat situation with
everyday living is proof of your
paranoia and xenophobia.
No ,illustration of the insanity of some gun control logic.
Almost as insane as UK citizen talking about gun/weapon control with the
abuses
of gun control that have sparked multi rebellions over thier history.Can the
EU name a king/queen
era that didn't have trouble with abuse of power ......which is what gun
control boils down to .

No. it doesn't.

Do you really think I am gong to go up against the army, with challenger
tamks. teargas, stun grenades infra red surveillance and the rest with a
handgun?

You utter stupid prat.

Who controls the army, controls the nation.

Military coup., is the phrase.

Never a 'civilian coup' is it?

For all the wepaons the US kindly supplied the IRA, they were not able
to take over N. Ireland. Merely make everyone bitter and sick enough
finally after 30 years of indecisive bloodshed to actually sit down and
talk about it.

Look at Iraq. Blew the country to bits, but what happens? you cant hold
the ground.

The net result will be to turn a sectarian dictatorship into civil war
between two opposing theocracies.



If the leaders abuses power.... you don't want the citizens to have much
more than bare hands to
oppose your abuse. We had state churches,others like socialist who banned
religion , we had church whore houses ,
we had merchant sin offsets,we had in recent times if anything worse with
Hilter ,the czars,and Stalin.
And we are talking about the ciivlized Europeans ....not them barbaric
Americans.
The US was a brit colony at one time...

should have stayed that way too.

Let's see how many of those old colonies are better off than the barbaric
American's.
South Africa, Nigeria, etc.......Pakistan,India isn't all that bad,parts of
south east asia,etc.
Maybe some of them need to get american barbarism instead of what they got
for political ideas.


Australia, canada, new zealand. All better places than the USA.

And for the same reasons really,.The indigenous population was
essentially sidelined or ethnically cleansed.

Its where you leave the population in place that you end up having to
move out again.

But you fail to see the point of Empire. It was a commercial
arrangemnent. We didn't take over counrries unless we had to, and we
only had to if they had something we wanted, and when we didn't want it
that much any more, we left again.

We didn't pretend we were spreading 'freedom, democracy, and the rule of
law' we were there to trade, and make a profit, and if that profit
supported an army to keep the trade going, well fine. If not, time to
shut shop chaps and go home.

America, Canad, australia and new zealand, were largely settled by
Europeans who wanted a place to live.

After slaughtering the population,thats what they did.

The rest of the Empire was not settled by people looking for a place to
live. It was work for profit, pure and simple. Then back home and buy a
peerage. If possible keep the natives killing each other, not us. Aslong
aqs pil came out of Iraq, gold out of south africa, cotton out of india,
and tea from ceylon, that was all we wanted. We didn't want Nigeria any
more than you want Iraq..55th state of the USA?, Iraq?. Imagine all
those voters..nah. They would have Bush out in an instant.

It was all sheer gun toting bloody stupidity, exactly what you would expect.