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Tim May
 
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Default Gunner on Socialism and Socialized Medicine


Gunner wrote in message
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Oh..and I will be quitting smoking (or trying really hard) as I need
lead a bit more healthy a life style. Shrug..this is gonna be a total
bitch and will likely be harder than undergoing the other stuff..I
have quit 14 times before...sigh...

....
As to how Im gonna pay for all this..I dont have a clue..but Ive a
number of options, from various country and state programs to long
term payment plans, to working with the VA. Im starting to explore
the options.

At least..Im alive to deal with the issue..and Im worth far more alive
than dead.


Actually, probably not, as Gunner will continue to be a drain on the
state and "feral government" (see his own quotes below) for his
remaining years, not to mention the person he now refers to in the
present tense as "my wife," if she's the same one with the heart
problems he talked about recently (didn't he tell us not too long ago
about how he "took back" the ex-wife who had cuckolded him with one of
his friends and who got into drugs and who later had $200,000 worth of
freebie medical care, courtesy of the taxpayers, done? I'm confused as
to whether his "wife" in the present tense is the bimbo who cuckolded
him, or that bimbo is living with Gunner and another wife, a later
wife.).

I expect Gunner will continue to work, when he can, in the marginal job
he described to us in his own past posts, where he said he was lucky to
earn $20,000 in a good year. He will likely pay $678 or $1754 or
whatever paltry amount in Federal plus State income taxes, but take out
many times this amount a year (for future medical care for his
condition) in the county and state programs he describes.

Fact is, Gunner was a "fair weather conservative." Now the various
socialists in these newsgroups are yammering about "no man is an
island" (as an excuse to steal from others).

"Wait until it happens to you!" is the siren song of the commies and
socialists. It's what Hilary, whom Gunner used to deride so strongly,
is counting on.

(And in fact, if and when it happens to me, I certainly will not
qualify for any "county and state programs." In fact, not only will I
be soaked at the maximum hospital rates and doctor fees, but my taxes
will keep going up, up, and up. All to support the increasing number of
people who failed to save, failed to invest, failed to study, failed to
make good choices, failed, failed, failed.)

Fair weather conservatives...it's what has Hilary and Kerry rubbing
their hands in anticipation (actually, their hands are usually occupied
with reaching into our wallets to fund their "it takes a village"
social programs).

Let me remind Gunner, and the readers here, what he said so forcefully
about "socialized medicine" and "the feral government" and how robbing
others to pay for medicine is wrong.

Here are some direct quotes from Gunner, with dates. As all can plainly
see, some quotes are quite recent. And there are many more quotes just
like these.


"A Rolls Royce, or a can of Spam..it makes no difference, it its taken
from me at the point of a gun, and given to someone else. Its not yours
to take. Thats called robbery. Just because the Feral or State
government does it , makes it no less than large armed men doing the
robbing. Please point out where in the Constitution (a document
defining the limits of goverment) were it defines such taking as
approved?"
--Gunner, alt.machines.cnc, 2003-06-25

"Please point out in the Constitution where welfare is equated with
Providing with the Common Defense?"
--Gunner, alt.machines.cnc, 2003-06-25


"Or the fact that the border crossings into the US are filled daily
with Canuks coming into the US for medical care that they can't get in
their wonderful Socialized Medicine system. at least that they can't
get before their condition kills them."
--Gunner, misc.survivalism, 1999-07-15

"Klinton is a Fascist/Liberal. Way to the left. Way Way to the left.
Nationalized Health care ring a bell? Socialized medicine.... yes sir
rebob thats a conservitive thingy. Gun Control...yes sir, thats a
conservitive thingy, Oh hell, lots more that I have not the time or
patience to expound on."
--Gunner, misc.survivalism, 1999-12-06

"Even Republicans are guilty of encouraging government involvement in
health care. They claim to be against socialized medicine, yet they
continuously pass bills that slowly move the country in that direction,
a little at a time."
--Gunner, misc.survivalism, 2003-06-02

"Wrong buckwheat...Im self employed, slowly starving to death, but
never have, nor ever will ask for nor depend on welfare. I may ask a
private charity someday..if Im really at the point of living in a
refridgerator box, for a new box..

....

But thats the breaks. Im in the situation Im in, simply for two
reasons. Bad luck, which happens to anybody..and more importantly..bad
personal decisions over the years. My ex ran me over the coals but it
was my decisions that allowed her to do that. I went into
manufacturing,
thinking it was going to be fun and rewarding...and passed up some
number of job offers in several unrelated fields. My decisions, my
choices, my having to deal with the results. No one elses. Mine. Nor
do I expect some poor ******* to have a gun poked in his ear, so the
Feral government can take from him to give to me."
--Gunner, same article as first two quotes at the top