On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:46:07 -0500, Nate Nagel
wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Nate Nagel" wrote in message
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Steve wrote:

Nate Nagel wrote on 17 Dec 2007 in group
alt.home.repair:

Update: was able again to make it home early from work today, took faucet
back to supply place, neither I nor counter guy could see anything wrong
with it. I asked for a pair of o-rings for the
sprayer nozzle connection and tried it again. On a whim, I lubed the
O-rings with silicone grease prior to installation thinking that that
is what I would do if I were installing them on a car, so why not
here? Also I think the ones I got as replacements are ever so
slightly larger in cross-section than the original ones. et voila,
works perfectly. I guess either one of the o-rings had a minor flaw
that I couldn't see or I nicked/twisted it on installation in a way
that I couldn't see. Anyway, it's in there now and now I can consider
the kitchen sink project almost complete.


I moved into a newly constructed house 18 months ago. The bathtub
faucet dripped VERY slowly, about a quart a day -- just enough that
SWMBO didn't like it. The second plumber the builder sent out found the
problem. The factory O-ring was flawed, with a little flat place in one
spot. Replacement solved the problem. Yeah, I could have done it myself,
but that's what a warranty is for.
Besides, I got to talke to the second guy, and I now we refer work to
each other.

Well, I spoke too soon. Apparently it is *not* fixed but now leaking out
of the spray nozzle end. haven't had a chance to investigate yet.

Am seriously regretting going with Moen. I know they have a good rep but
the whole faucet when installed seems cheap and flimsy, although there was
really no way to tell looking at it in the box. When I turn the water on
I can see the arm moving relative to the base, and everything just feels
light duty. I like the old Delta much better, except for the obvious lack
of sprayer nozzle.

nate



What's the sink made out of and how much did it cost?

it's a Kohler 19ga. SS sink, cost about $250 not sure why that's
relevant. I think I see where you're going with this question and
that's another minor disappointment, the sink is not as rigid as I'd
hoped in the area of the faucet but it was the heaviest gauge one in the
catalog at the plumbing store for less than $500. But anyway the arm of
the faucet moving when the water is on is not flexing of the sink, it's
definite movement of the arm portion of the faucet relative to the base.
it ain't much, but it's visible and the old Delta faucet doesn't do it.


As far as the problems with the Moen, what did they say when you called them
with your telephone today?


Didn't have a chance to call as I was on the road most of the day and
therefore try to limit my phone usage (although some days that's not
practical...) actually upon further investigation it appears that the
issue was something loose in the sprayer nozzle... I disassembled it,
reassembled it, and now I don't see the issue. Apparently the valve in
the sprayer nozzle was not closing all the way causing a dribble of
water out the nozzle when using the faucet. It's not doing that
anymore... not sure what I "fixed" - I am guessing that maybe there was
some debris in there that is now gone.

as of this exact moment (knock on wood) there's no functional issues
with the faucet but I'm overall just not 100% nuts about it. I
personally would be happier putting the old one back in but I don't know
how I could get my money back for the new one now that it's been
installed twice and admittedly there aren't any current functional
issues with it. Also SWMBO did really want that damn sprayer nozzle...

nate

Correct on both issues - debris and SWMBO. Take a nap:_))

Stay with the Moen, imo.