On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:20:30 -0600, Tim Daneliuk
wrote:
Oh, if only life were so simple. First of all, I have yet to find any
government employee with more than about two years on the job who even
remembers such a document. When you get hired (anywhere) you are
virtually overwhelmed with documents, orientations, procedures,
chain-of-command, etc., and that doesn't even count the actual OJT.
But that's not even the important part. Implicit in that "agreement"
was that you would be treated as a professional, you would benefit
from professional leadership, and that you would enjoy the respect and
loyalty of the institution in return for your own.
I have thousands of examples personally experienced by me and
multiplied by the tens of thousands of fellow controllers with whom I
worked over the years of violations of the most egregious sort by the
agency of those committments.
It's easy to sit back and prosletyze about what *should* be done when
you' haven't the benefit of the experience. I was there. I know what
happened, and I knew what needed to be done. Do you honestly think for
a second that over 13,000 people not only went out the door but
refused to return just on a whim?
There were serious issues that directly related to our well being that
were not being addressed. You probably think it was about money, don't
you? If you'd been there, you'd know diifferent.
Either everyone must keep their word or no one has to...
I never cease to be amused when someone says something like this,
particularly when reagan is somehow involved. How many wives did he
have? Wasn't he president of SAG? Didn't he promise to work for
controllers' issues when elected? Then let's start on his presidency.
Weren't we supposed to stay out of Nicaragua? It goes on and on.
Bonehenge (B A R R Y) wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:58:16 +0000, LRod
wrote:
Everything's negotiable. See USPS Strike 1970. Just as "illegal" but
amicably resolved by good faith negotiations.
There have also been "illegal" strikes by teachers, transit workers,
firefighters, etc...
The 2005 NYC Transit Strike was probably the most recent example.
The whole lot was not fired for striking.
But they should have been. All these people serve public
safety and/or the interests of our children. They are
granted a virtual monopoly to do so by government and
are paid with all of our tax money. Part of the deal
when they signed up was an agreement to never strike -
or at least that was the deal with the ATC folk - precisely
because their work is so integral to the safety of the nation.
They joined up voluntarily, and signed their contracts as
adults, making that promise to never strike without coercion
or other force. Then they go back and their word (i.e. lie)
and you *defend* this? I've heard screeching about far less
here on the 'wreck because someone felt ripped off over a
tool or a discount that wasn't honored at some store. Why
aren't public servants to be held to the same standard?
Either everyone must keep their word or no one has to...
--
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