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Dave Bugg

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On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:32:28 GMT, (Malcolm Hoar)
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:
On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:00:40 GMT, (Malcolm Hoar)
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

Okay, please give us "facts" pertaining to why you got married
that are not really just based on emotion.

Why? That's a purely personal choice. Not a public policy
question that he seeks to impose on the rest of the citizens.

I was trying to point out that emotions can guide decisions and be
just as valid as "facts".

I know. It wasn't a good example ;-)

There are MANY very controversial issues that are really
controversial only because of the emotions involved. Abortion, Gun
Control, Gay Marriage, etc.

Yes, but there are a lot of highly relevant facts that apply
to each and every one of those topics. Public policy decisions
made in the absence (or defiance) of those facts are unlikely
to be sound.

Oh, really?

So, after the US faced the REAL threat of Russian missiles for over
40 years without the Patriot Act and a Department of Homeland
Security, the decision to create both of them was based on FACTS
rather than emotions? Give me a break!

Apples and oranges. NSA and CIA and a dozen other agencies were dealing with
Soviet threats; the USSR vs America. Nation to nation. Terrorism is fluid
and is not centered in one specific nation. 9-11 was just the latest example
of homeland intelligence weakness where domestic intellegence (FBI) was
prevented, by policy and law, from receiving and sharing information from
the international intelligence gathering agencies. 9-11 was a fact, and it
was the nexis of the Patriot Act and the Dept. of Homeland security.

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Dave
www.davebbq.com