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"Don Foreman" wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 04:14:22 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:02:02 -0800 (PST), rigger
wrote:

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Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

Have you been paying *no* attention to the news? Or do you really
believe that
places like Columbine CO, Pearl MS, or Grundy VA are included in
"the
dangerous parts of our most dangerous cities"??

And the fact that when citizens DO help control the
situation, while armed, this almost never gets re-
ported by the media. And also ignored are the
thousand of times each year (acknowledged by the
Dept. of Justice and FBI) guns are used to thwart a
violent crime.


Ive not been following the news lately, but after reading a report on
the Lady "Security Guard" who shot the badguy at the church...

It should be noted..she was NO "security guard", but a lady parisoner
who volunteered to act as security as she had a CCW permit (along with
some 20 other parisoners.

And she.. a simple armed citizen with a CCW..shot the bad guy before
he could kill far more.

She was/is a former Minneapolis police officer. She was fired for
"untruthfulness", denying that she had been verbally abusive with a
perp (zounds!) when they had tape proving otherwise.

The article didn't say what happened to the perp.

The spin the media is putting on the "Security Guard" business would
lead people to believe she was in uniform, in the employ of a security
firm. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

Right. She was acting as a private citizen.

The Medias spin is pecular and apparent.

They are doing everything possible to avoid saying an armed citizen
ended the onslaught.


Gunner

But how can this be? It has been stated here that there is a
causation/correlation argument the whole thing. And everyone knows
that it is just a bunch of paranoid CCW holders that are spreading these
vicious rumors.

If you've read the reports from the mainstream media, there is no spin. She
is a former cop who volunteers to do security for the church, including
being a bodyguard for the pastor. As the pastor says, she is "well-trained."
In contrast to what Gunner and you are implying, she isn't just an ordinary
church lady who happened to have a pistol in her garter while she sold
brownies at the church bake sale.

Furthermore, Gunner says there are "some 20 other parishoners" who have
CCWs. I don't know where he found that; the gunsites I checked said 12. I
don't know where they could have gotten that, either. But there are 14,000
parishoners in that church. About 1/2 of 1% of Colorado residents have CCW
permits, according to the state, which suggests that parishoners of that
church are quite a bit less likely than average CO residents to have one.

That's probably why they have security guards, both paid and volunteer. And
a former cop is a top candidate to be a volunteer security guard.

If you noticed the earlier posts from which I copied the NYT and the Wash.
Post quotes on the story, they contained all of this information except for
the number of CCW permit holders in the congregation, which probably is a
crock of crap anyway, wherever Gunner got it, and which most people would
consider irrelevant to the story.

What was that you were saying about spin?

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Ed Huntress