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Robatoy wrote:
On Nov 26, 5:57 pm, "J. Clarke" wrote:
Robatoy wrote:
On Nov 26, 3:54 pm, "J. Clarke" wrote:


How is "their behavior" "irresponsible, nay, short-lived"? If
you
are talking about consuming fuel, if everybody drove a mo-ped it
would still run out, just might take a little longer. There is
no
level of consumption that will result in the oil lasting forever.
Might be the great grandkids instead of the grandkids who have to
transition to a different fuel, but it's still going to happen.


Might as well blow it all out of our asses and get it over with,
huh?
I tend to support the viewpoint that if we conserve, we might buy
ourselves enough time to find alternate solutions.


We "found alternate solutions" more than 50 years ago. Right now
they aren't economically attractive and aren't going to be
economically attractive until the price of what we are using now
rises to a point that is higher than the cost not only of the
alternatives but of making the transition including building the
necessary infrastructure.

If you were in a
life-boat, you wouldn't eat everything on board in one day, would
you?


In a life boat one hopes to be rescued or to reach land. We are
not
in a life boat, nobody is going to rescue us, there is no land to
be
reached.

No you wouldn't. You would conserve in the hope that there would
be
a
rescue.


By who, space aliens?

This ball of dirt on which we float about in space, will not get
rescued by an outside source. Our resources are finite.
Conserving what we have is nothing but smart.


So what level of conservation to you want to require? Do you want
to
just ban SUVs? Then people who want big vehicles will start
driving
2 ton trucks instead. Or city buses. Or something else that gives
them the room that they want. Or do you think that I'm consuming
excessively riding my 650 and want me to ride a Vespa instead?



"Smell my exhaust, you serfs!" "I am on this planet all by
myself,
eating and drinking and driving what ""I"" want." " I have NO
responsibility to my fellow planet dwellers." "It is all for ME,
ME,
ME *diabolical laughter*."
"And I will kill those who have more fuel for me to burn!!!!"


Nice.


OK, now you've officially lost it.


LOL... you think? Naaa, my sense of the absurd has its own way to
illustrate things.
You probably wouldn't understand why I broke out laughing when I
saw
a
Lincoln pick-up truck.


Nahh, I'd have thought it was funny too. By the way, do you have a
problem with pick up trucks or is it just SUVs?

Still trying to steer the conversation, eh?


And you're evading the question.

And I was right again. You didn't understand why I broke out
laughing
when I saw a Lincoln pick-up truck.


You mean you laughed at it because it _wasn't_ funny? You is weird.

I had no problem with it. No problem with SUV's either.


Then you might want to read the thread and see what the other person
using your account has been posting under your name.

But seeing that you've descended into the need to use strawmen and
red
herrings in your arguments, I will just just slam the door on this
discussion as there is no hope of it becoming constructive.


I see, so you say "I suppose it is a rich man's option to drive 3 ton
behemoth, spewing
insane amounts of sickening fumes into the faces of people who cannot
do anything about that?" and then when pressed to further explain your
views decide "I have no problem with SUVs" and take your ball and go
home.

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