On Nov 14, 2:11 pm, wrote:
EARLY 1980's! Wasn't that over 25 years ago?

Surge protectors have existed for 100 years. UL1449 is 20 years
old. Even with UL1449 safety backup, some protectors create 'scary
pictures' such as the recent building fire on Louis Prang Street in
Boston. Did you read what the NC Fire Marshall reports? Did you read
what IEEE Standards (Red Book, Green Book, Emerald Book) all require
for protection? Or do you know otherwise because plug-in protectors
are sold in retail stores?

Radio Shack would not sell an ineffective product? Since Radio
Shack profits were so low last year, suddenly Radio Shack is offering
numerous Monster Cable products - which is Radio Shack's new
credibility.

Do you have a problem with those 20 or 30 professional citations
that all require earthing for protection? Or did you just ignore
them? Where are reasons to justify doubt? Where are your numbers?
Why do telcos, the US Air Force, Sun Microsystems, and other high
reliability organizations not do what Bud recommends? Where damage
cannot happen, routine is to not use plug-in protectors. High
reliability facility needs effective protection. Just because plug-in
protectors are sold in retail stores (at massive profit), does that
means plug-in protectors are useful? Of course not.

So many gold painted cables now sold in Radio Shack for maybe $10 -
when the same cable without gold sells for maybe $2. But it is sold
in Radio Shack. It costs more. Therefore it must be better? Same
reasoning justifies plug-in protectors. Monster Cable can sell
products for significantly more money because so many consumers never
ask "why?" It is more expensive; therefore it must be better? Does
salty@dog first ask "why"? Or do you automatically know plug-in
protectors are effective?

Monster also sells 'high tech' speaker wires for something
approaching $20. Does that mean speakers with 'high tech' speaker
wire sound better? Again, of course not.

Radio Shack sells Monster Cable plug-in protectors for $150. Does
that mean the protector provides protection? Of course not. It's a
Monster Cable product. Its purpose is profits just like gold painted
cables and 'high tech' speaker wire for better sound. Amazing how many
will buy 'high tech' speaker wire (not ask why) because the retail
salesman says it is better.

However show me. Show me why salty@dog knows a plug-in protector
does anything useful. It does not claim in specs. So many know it
must work because it is sold in stores? What does that prove? That
other "monster cable" type companies also know how to increase
profits.

One manufacturer - SL Waber - making this same protector (EP63 Power
Master) was more honest:
This Surge suppressor is not a lightning arrestor and may
not protect against lightning induced voltage surges.

Do you know something their engineers don't? Then please post it.
If you know a plug-in protector actually provides protection, then
simply post spec numbers that lists protection from each type of
surge. Show me. Where are your numbers?

Why would you spend $2000+ for plug-in protectors when one 'whole
house' protector for tens (maybe 100) times less money will actually
provide protection? Or do you just know only because plug-in
protectors are sold in retail stores and recommended by a Best Buy
salesman?

Listed were responsible companies that sell protectors with the
essential earthing wire. Square D, Leviton, GE, etc. Are they
scammers? Of course not. What does every engineering citation say?
An effective protector will *divert* a surge to earth. Protectors
from responsible companies have that dedicated earthing wire. Costs
less. Lasts longer. Not located where fire danger is greatest.

Where is surge energy dissipated without damage? Please salty@dog,
tell us where surge energy will be dissipated if the protector does
not have that short earthing connection? Surge enegy is dissipated in
earth. Do you really believe a silly little one inch component
inside a protector will stop what three miles of sky could not? A
protector without that earth ground must absorb what three miles of
sky could not? These are the damning questions you should be asking
even long before same type myths also promoted Saddam's WMDs.

No earth ground means no effective protection. Bud must post
incessantly. Otherwise profits on protectors without earthing are at
risk. What would happen if stores suddenly started selling only
effective protectors? Well Radio Shack would no longer make how much
profit selling a $3 power strip with some $0.10 protector parts for
$150. If it actually claims surge protection, well, show me. Where
are those numbers? Bud cannot. Show me the numbers.