On 2007-11-10 17:53:15 +0000, "The Medway Handyman"
said:

Andy Hall wrote:

Actually it's consistent.

Freedom of choice is tied up with personal freedom, in essence.

Personal freedom in the short version is the ability to do whatever
you like without let or hindrance *provided that* it doesn't impact
on the equal right of the next person to do the same.

This one crosses the line of that definition.

It does in a restaurant but not in a bar surely?

One goes to a restaurant to consume food (always) and (often) alcohol
to go with it.

One goes to a bar to consume drinks (alcohol mostly) and (often) food
to go with it.

In effect, they are the same apart from the ambience, the focus and the degree.

Time was when there were pubs where the only food served was packets of
crisps and perhaps a packaged pork pie. These seem to be rare as
pubs havew switched to a higher emphasis on food in their offering.


One could easily have
smoking or non smoking premises.

One could, but there is the issue of finding them and the
practicalities of operation. Who decides on which is which? Do the
licensors play Solomon?



As it stands The Oxford Pipe Club can't smoke pipes in their own building.

Well they can always take snuff.