Have at, bigtime! Please report back the results.

Building heights are a zoning issue. Insulation thickness would
be a local amendment, not a matter for national code.

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On Nov 3, 11:10 am, "DanG" wrote:
None of the above. It is not a code issue. A frame would have
to
be so far out of square, plumb, or true that is could fall down
before it was remotely a code issue. There is no requirement
to
be square.

Building inspectors just DO NOT deal with cosmetic or
functional
issues. There is no code requiring that your dishwasher
works.There is no code that says your door must latch. There
is a
code that your bedroom window must open as a fire escape.
There
is a code sizing and numbering means of egress. Code deals
with
life safety.

Nonsense. There are all kinds of laws, rules, restrictions as
to
what a building must conform to that have nothing to do with
safety. For example, in many areas, you can't build a house
higher
than a certain number of feet or stories. That has nothing to
do
with safety, as obviously there are other houses in other towns
that
are much higher and no one is having problems because of it Or
codes
that say homes must have a certain minimum amount of insulation.
Is a
house unsafe because it doesn't have enough attic insulation?

You have no way of knowing that there isn't a requirement for
control
joints in concrete in his area that says you can't have a 21 ft
span
without one. So, he should just sit down and shut up, and not
check
with the building dept in his town because you say so?






Codes are usually the result of insurance industry
losses that have to do with law suit items where there has been
loss of life.

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On Nov 3, 10:38 am, "DanG" wrote:
I am always amazed at the number of people who want to
holler
about inspectors fixing everything.

Inspectors work with code.
Code identifies construction minimums.

Code is most highly related to life safety issues. Boards
must
be
a certain minimum size, nails must be a certain size and
number.
Foundation concrete needs to meet size and strength
minimums.
Handrails, stairs,and ramps need to meet size requirements.
Exits
must meet size and number requirements. Things must meet
certain
fire ratings. There is usually a footing inspection,
framing
inspection, and final leading to occupancy.

Plumbing, HVAC, and electrical inspections do the same thing
at
an
even more stringent safety level.

There is no inspector/inspection alive that could care less
about
a crack in any of your slab concrete. They don't care if
your
brick work cracks. They don't even care if your foundation
cracks. They don't care what brand water heater or furnace
you
use. They only care that things won't burn down, fall down,
catch
on fire, hurt someone else, electrocute someone, contaminate
anyone else or harm city infrastructure.

There is no code requirement for slab reinforcement,
jointing,
expansion/contraction control, subsoil compaction, proper
fill,
type of finish, or anything else about flat work concrete.
These
are all issues that are cosmetic only. Code just doesn't
care
if
the window or door is crooked, won't latch, siding is
crooked,
didn't get painted, has the worst texture job in the world.

This guy's cracked patio is due to lack of proper control
joints.
There is no need for an expansion joint at the foundation
unless
the concrete is trapped. Re-bar and re-mesh are not
required
and
may actually do more harm than good. It is too bad there
are
not
code driven compaction requirements. The slab will probably
end
up settling along the foundation due to loose fill and
holding
water.

Don't expect code or inspectors to adjudicate or address
cosmetic
issues. Ain't happening. This is an issue between owner
and
builder. The builder or his subcontractor did not follow
industry
guidelines and did not do all that he could have to prevent
the
cosmetic problem. If he is using subs that would pour a
long
rectangle without joints, I would worry more about all other
subs
at every level.

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On Nov 3, 1:43 am, wrote:
On Nov 2, 10:27 pm, Joe wrote:

On Nov 1, 1:20 pm, hands on
wrote:

I have 12 foot x 21 foot concrete patio that cracked
down
the middle
after 30 days of install thanks to Veranda Homes LLC
of
Wilmington,NC.
I tried to fill in the crack but it looks bad and the
builder won't
fix it.
Any ideas how I can cover it up with pavers or would
the
best thing be
to tear it up and replace it?

Build a deck over it. That will give you so much grief
in
maintainance
that when you finally get rid of it the concrte will
look
great.

Joe

You have a 21 ft span with no control joints and an 1/8"
crack
on a
patio that is 30 days old. That is not normal and I
wouldn't
accept
it and would get the building inspector out there. This
should not
happen with concrete work that is done properly. Is the
crack
running approximately perpendicular to the 21ft span?
Concrete
shrinks when it cures and if you have a span that long
without
a
control joint, that could be the problem.

I'm thinking the building inspector was the problem(lack
of
inspection) as with my other problems.

I have a question about the framing inspection because I have
a
front
door that is out of square and a sliding patio door that is
out
of
square. Do inspectors look to see if openings are square or
do
they
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