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Mike, I dont understand why you'd use the concrete tube for the very small
hairline cracks. Im picturing that the concrete would be so hard to get in
there.

Do you know the exact name brands you got? Does the 'seal leveling' brand
say its 'seal leveling' on the item?

Another thing..it would probably be difficult to install a radon system in
my house because you cant drill down from inside the house. I have Radiant
Heating. (heating within the foundation)





"hobbes" wrote in message
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On Oct 31, 6:45 am, hobbes wrote:
On Oct 31, 12:39 am, "john"
wrote:





This is the 2nd time i've tested my house for Radon and its come up
above
the normal levels both times. The first time around 4.2pci and the
most
recent 8.0 pci. (these were 48 hour short term tests)


I already had it planned to rip out my carpets on my foundation level.
(1st
floor - bi-level house) So I was going to try it on my own first with
ripping out the carpets and filling in the foundation cracks. (if any
are
found...which there should be) I would rather go this route first
before
spending a $1000 or more on a Radon system.


Does anyone recommend what I should use to fill in the foundation
cracks?
Regular cement caulking in a tube...is that ok ? And should I use some
type
of sealant coating on top after the cracks are filled?


My sump pump / well water area is closed off and sealed well.. Plus its
closed off. (door) so im not worried much about that area.


I do have a sink down there in which i'll have to use a sealant to
caulk up
the small gap and the bottom of the pipe. Thats another thing... the
EPA
hotline guys said I should use a polyurethane sealant... while the
Kidde
radon company I used to test my radon levels recommend using a Silicone
sealant for that area.. so im not sure which one to go with there..


Any help would be much appreciated. You guys are the best at giving
general
advice.


John in PA


Hi John,

I did this in my basement for Radon. I posted my experiences on
alt.home.repair as Caulking Hell and Subsequent Redemption. So here is
my story again ....

The biggest crack I had was between the basement wall and the concrete
slab floor. The floor concrete tends to pull away from the wall as it
dries. The gap varies from almost zero to maybe 1/4 inch. You want to
fill this crack and make it gas tight.

The process I ended up with is two stage:

1) Use a polyeurethane caulk, which is *NOT* seal leveling first.
This will seal up most of the gap
but it will not be gas tight.

2) Use a *self leveling* polyeurethane caulk over the other caulk.

Notes:

Both caulks are polyeurethane based. This is because they will stick
to concrete and they will stick to each other. You want to use the
thicker one first because if you do not, the gap is so large that the
self leveling caulk will just drain away into the crushed rock base
below your basement slab. Note you do not have to wait untill the
thicker caulk dries, I just proceeded with step 2 right away and it
worked fine. I really recomend spending the extra 4 dollars on the
best caulk gun you can get your hands on. After caulking 150 feet of
basement perimeter your hand gets real tired.

For hairline cracks in the concrete slab itself. I used a concrete
filler. It somes in a sort of squeezy bottle and comes out like a wet
paste. I used a plastic putty knife to smooth it over. Your basement
floor will remain dead flat, no bumps.

After I did all this I also ended up installing a radon fan. The
caulking is useful in that you keep the warm air in the house and not
being sucked out. Some web sites say that sealing alone, although
useful, may not lower significantly radon levels. This is because you
may miss a bit, basement stairs, near the boiler where you cannot
reach etc. Also because the radon gas that remains is more
concentrated, you sealed up most of the gas where it could escape.
Hence the net lowering of radon levels is not that great if you do not
use a fan.

Best, Mike.- Hide quoted text -

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Sorry ... one more thing ... I bought my polyeurethane caulk from Home
Depot. Some internet "Radon specialist" sites sell the same stuff at
ridiculously high prices.

Best, Mike.