On Oct 20, 5:20?pm, jim wrote:
On Oct 20, 3:00 pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:





On Oct 20, 3:40 pm, " wrote:

if the toilet flushes solids well with a bucket.

by a gallon of muriatic acid, safety glasses and a funnel one that
will fit in the dip tube top opening.

put on safety glasses, open window, it will smell bad.

put funnel in dip tube, take deep breathe, pour a quart or so in
funnel, avoid splashing,,,,,leave room. shut door.

20 minutes later flush toilet 10 times minimum. to clean out the acid.

this will clean the bowl rim passages, the passage at the bottom, and
all the interior passages inside the toilet.

you can drain toliet bowl if you want but thats not really necessary.

the acid dissolves hard water sediment in the lines and openings.

total cost 1/2 hour and under 10 bucks

If you are going to use this suggestion, PLEASE (and I *never*
capatilize in a post) read the info at this site:

Hydrochloric Acid, 33 - 40% - Synonyms: Muriatic acid; hydrogen
chloridehttp://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/H3880.htm

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And then get ready for the china to start looking older as this will
with time take the finish off glazing The holes around the rim are not
the promblem but the siphon hole could be as was suggested try a small
wire in it also try it in the rim holes . If you see any rust around
the tunnel entrance it is a sign that the toilet needs to be replaced
as it is shaling inside and this not repairable. Shaling will cause
the hole to get smaller and the water and waste cannot get thru as
well as once did. How old if 20 yrs or more get a new one and the
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well around here hard water is common, and the problem is definetely
the rim holes, which clog over time, you can try opening them with a
coat hanger end but that doesnt address the gunk in the interior
passages.

when first seeing this trouble I tried CLR that hard water remover its
blue green color. dumped it down the dip tube i could see it didnt
come out the front of the bowl rim passages at all.

Now dont do this excessively, its a stong solution to a serious clog
not a clean toilet weekly item.

now it might lead to a earlier toilet replacement, but then again a
toilet that cant flush is garbage anyway, so what do you have to lose?