Meat Plow wrote:

On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:59:33 +0000, Arfa Daily wrote:


"robb" wrote in message
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"CheetahHugger" wrote in message
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If you can squeeze a 25V cap in its place...

Yes, i can, it's just that i remember huge problems with
capacitors
about 10 years ago and it seems it's still a common failure
making me
think it's a weak component purposely installed to make sure
the
appliance in question will only just outlast the warranty.
To me this is theft from consumers.

Cheetah

i think you need to factor in the product value and penny
counters as well, Cheapo mother boards were big problem once upon
a time. The mother board and other electronic mfgs are ordering
thousands and millions of components and a couple of fractions of
pennies here and there really adds up to big savings or profit
for them. I replaced some buldging caps in my old cheapie MOBO
with nichicon equivalents and the board still runs great.


That said, there was a genuine issue a few years back where one (or more ??)
of the major electrolytic manufacturers had a batch of 'fake' electrolyte
swung across them, which resulted in hundreds of thousands of substandard
caps appearing on the market, and finding their way onto computer
motherboards, and failing after a relatively short period of time.
Obviously, the mo-bo manufacturers thought that they were buying full spec
caps, and the cap manufacturers thought that's what they were selling, so
not a penny-pinching situation in that case.


IIRC Abit was one mobo manufacture that got bit by bad caps.

I have one of those Abits. I tried to replace them but the local elctronics
dealer(central Canada) wanted $40.00 for 20 caps. (I could replace the MoBo for
that price, its outdated anyway and I just wanted to try replacing the caps for
the heck of it). I am waiting to find a more reasonable seller with decent prices.



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