On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:16:28 -0500, flipper wrote:
On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:12:01 GMT, Richard The Dreaded Libertarian
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:01:56 -0700, JosephKK wrote:
Tom Del Rosso lid posted to sci.electronics.design:
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Roe v. Wade comes to mind too. It was the left that decided to
force their
view on everyone regardless of public opinion. Naturally people on
the
right who wanted to force their way responded. Only a few
intellectuals could grasp the need to let the democratic process do
its work and allow
some states to go one way and some to go the other way. But it's
not the
GOP's fault that intellectuals are a minority. They had to get
supporters somewhere.

Roe v. Wade was not about the left forcing its views on the world, but
of stopping the religious right from imposing a continuing public
health nightmare. The abortions were happening in back alleys with
rusty wire coat hangers and knitting needles in the bathroom and the
young women with a "secret" were dying of complications. 'Tis better
that it be legal.
Though i am kind of ****ed off about the guv'munt paying for it.
Particularly when it is not coupled with collateral sterilization.

The only way to grant "rights" to a fetus is to strip its owner
of hers.

That's a sophist word game and one could just as easily say the only
way to grant 'rights' to a murder victim is to strip the murderer of
his.

The crux of the matter is the definition of 'human' and from where
rights originate.

Of course, in the mind of the evangelicals, women are
property.

Now you're just showing your ignorance.


Your type is famous for accusing your opponents of doing exactly what
you're doing.

Here's the facts:
http://www.archives.gov/national-arc..._11-27.html#14

Note "All persons born..."

You'd think you religious types would afford some significance to the
expression "the miracle of childbirth."

You've got one person.
You've got one pregnant person.
You've got one VERY pregnant person.
*** THE MIRACLE OF CHILDBIRTH ***
Now, you've got two people.

How could it be any simpler?

Thanks,
Rich