on 9/22/2007 11:29 PM Tony Hwang said the following:
DerbyDad03 wrote:

On Sep 22, 6:26 pm, "aemeijers" wrote:

"Phisherman" wrote in message

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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 07:52:12 -0700, wrote:

As a new homewner I need a drill/driver for occasional weekend use. I
am on the budget $100 but the less I spend the better if quality is
sufficient for my tasks.
The options I've been looking at are
1) 18v Skil 2887, $79 (or 59 refurbished)
2) Panasonik EY6405FQKW, $99
3) Ryobi 18V Reconditioned $75

Any other options? I realize it would be a waste to buy anything pro
in my case. I want the drill to last however. So based on reviews
Panasonic is aa clear winner but does it worth extra $?

Just about any electric drill will outlast most cordless drills. But,
you will get a far better value for your dollar with a corded $100
Milwaukee and, if not abused, chances are excellent it will still be
running 10 years from now. All of my cordless drills died. If you
have to get a cordless, a DeWalt or Panasonic would be your best bet,
a big plus if it included two battery packs.

I'll second that. For occasional household use, a corded is
definitely the
way to go. Under occasional use, rechargeables die young, and 3-4 years
later the odds of finding a matching battery pack for less than the
cost of
a new drill are slim. Corded are also more powerful, in my
experience. And
they definitely are cheaper. Unless you drill often, and drill more
than 20
feet from an outlet, the convenience of cordless is more than offset
by the
short life, IMHO. Now if I was still making a living on construction
sites,
my answer would be different- I'd have a rig like some cabinet
installers I
saw- 2 cordless in belt holsters, one with a drill bit, and the
other with a
clutched screwdriver head, and a backup load of batteries in the
charger.
But these were commercial-grade drills, not DIYs, and for a pro,
time is
definitely money.

I do own a cordless (24v B&D), and like it, but it was a $25 impulse
purchase off the remainder table at the borg, marked down from about
$60. It
is great for small 2-3 hole jobs hanging things on walls and such,
but when
I tried to do production with it (deck screws on a couple of
replacement
boards), it wimped out after 4-5 screws, and would not dog them
down. I went
out and bought a corded Makita 3/8 variable/reversing for about 50
bucks,
and zipped through the rest of the 30-odd screws in short order.
Since the
corded would easily do anything the cordless does, but the reverse
is not
true, if I had to choose between them, I would definitely keep the
corded
one.

Under light household use, any brand name corded should easily last
15-20
years. Both of my current drills replaced an extremely cheap B&D 3/8
that I
had used for over 25 years, but smoked the bearings on drilling
through 45
year old framing, running wires. (it still spins, but overheats
quickly. I
use it for wirebrushing rust off the car now.)

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- I do own a cordless (24v B&D), and like it, but it was a $25
impulse purchase off the remainder table at the borg, marked down from
about $60.

Not for nothing, but I wouldn't expect a $60 cordless drill, even a
24V model, to be able to handle even the smallest of jobs. Perhaps
that's why it was on the remainder table.

My wife went to the B&D store at an outlet mall. She wanted to
surprise me with tool so she asked the salesman for some help. When
she told him that most of my tools are Dewalts, he suggested she go
buy me a shirt or something! He didn't want to sell her anything B&D
because the quality is so inferior to Dewalt.

Hi,
I thought B&D owns DeWalt or vice versa? Old B&D tools were OK.
Black & Decker owns:
Black & Decker
DeWalt
Porter-Cable
Delta Machinery
Kwikset (home locks)
Baldwin (home door locks, lighting, hardware)
Weiser Lock ( home door locks)
Price Pfister (faucets)
Emhart Teknologies (fasteners)

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Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
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