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cavelamb himself wrote:

Doug Miller wrote:


In article . com, TwoGuns wrote:

Using RF waves to "Burn" water would be world changing IF the energy
output is greater than the energy input required to burn the water.



And it won't be. That's impossible.


The input power budget would tell a lot.
So far I've seen one reference - about 175 watts.


According to the Law of thermodynamics:

1st law: You can't win. (You cannot create energy from nothing)
Therefore the energy will never exceed what was there in the first place.

2nd law: You can't break even. (No energy transfer is 100% efficient,
there will always be some loss) Therefore the energy produced will have to
be less than the energy input.

Now in this case water is a low energy state for hydrogen and oxygen. You
add energy into the water and disassociate the hydrogen and oxygen. The
hydrogen and oxygen are now at a higher energy state. Burning the
hydrogen in oxygen releases that energy and recreates the water. You are
back where you started, except that you have less energy to repeat the
cycle, because there were losses in your energy transfers.