On Sep 18, 11:15 am, "Leon" wrote:
"carbonejim" wrote in message
ps.com...
Read this post a few days ago (http://groups.google.com/group/
rec.woodworking/browse_thread/thread/8a4d5bc71492e299/8b79c952a07a3eeb?
q=kreg+pocket+screws&lnk=ol&), now I'm putting together face frames
and want to give feedback and ask for tips.
I'm using 3/4" cherry on rails and stiles. Drilling the pockets in
the rails. The torque on my drill is very low (at 4 of 20 setting.)
I'm using Kreg 1 1/4" fine tooth screws. I'm having two issues:
1: If I don't pre-drill 1/8" holes in my stiles to accept the pocket
screw, the stiles will split almost everytime at the ends.
2: When I pre-drill, I think my angle has been a lilttle off which
results in the faces mis-aligning. This will lead to much more
planing/sanding to even them up. Should I clamp both pieces down
really hard?
Any advice?
-Jim
Make sure that the drill collar is set to the correct depth. The pilot hole
should be just shy of fully penetrating the end of the rail. Pilot holes
are not necessary in the mating piece.
CLAMP the two pieces together with the Kreg clamp. Center the wide side of
the clamp over the pocket hole side joint line.
I cannot say that I have ever had a splitting problem unless the screw was
less than 1/8" from the end of the wood. If your rails and stiles are 3/4"
wide, this may be a problem with the larger screws. You may want to make
certain that you are using a #7 or smaller diameter screw.
Can you post a picture of the problem?- Hide quoted text -
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My stiles and rails are 1.5" wide (and 3/4" thick)
I initially put the stile and rail in a 90" clamp, but got the split
issue. Now I'm face clamping the stile to the table and another face
clamp on the rail. The two pieces separate while driving the screw
before they pull together. Maybe I'm driving them too slowly? I
might be a bit gun shy now that I split 3 stiles.
I was using some of the Irwin quick clamps - but have a Kreg Bench
Clamp that might have more holding power. Funny - the picture in this
link shows what I could do -- is this a hint!! (http://
http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...97&filter=kreg)
Is this the Kreg clamp that you use? Kreg Face Clamp (http://
http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...17&filter=kreg)
Tonight I'll double check my drill bit stop to insure correct depth.
Snap a few pics of what I am trying. I'll also try a few different
techniques of driving speed, drill torque and clamping techniques.
Thanks for the tips - I'll work on my technique now that I hear that
others do not need pilot holes. I agree that pilot holes are not the
best scenario. I worried about holding power too, so I also glued the
rail and style together.
-Jim