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On Sep 8, 10:54 pm, Oren wrote:
On Sat, 8 Sep 2007 21:11:37 -0400, "MiamiCuse"
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"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
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I have a dumb question.

I hired someone to do some major demolition involving pulling out
sheetrock, wood paneling, removal of mirrors, tiles etc...

I specified in the contract that everything needs to be "bloomed
clean"
and "disposed", and for the most part it is, and I don't have a
problem
with that.

However, whenever 2x4s are pulled out from the wall, or sheet rock
pulled
down from the ceiling or wall, or wood paneling removed from concrete
block walls, there are tons of staples, nails, screws still on the
furring
strip, or studs or concrete walls. They cannot stay there if I hire
someone to hang new sheetrock they will have to get them out or cut
them
off. I would assume they should have been removed as part of
demolition,
right? It is not explicitely stated in the contract but I wonder if
this
is typical or usual customary.

I am talking about over 1000 SF of ceiling with these every 8 inches
or
so, and many wall surfaces. Who is responsible to take them out?
Should
this be included as part of demo? I would think so but I thought I
asked
before I complain about it.

Thanks,

MC

Let me clarify the situation further. This is not a confrontation
between
me and the contractor. I am merely asking questions and doing homework
before I ask him. He has not refused to remove them, I just wanted to
make
sure removal of them is standard. Yes I failed to state this in the
contract, but I incorrectly assumed if sheetrock goes the nails and
screws
go, my bad.

Here are a few pictures so it is crystal clear what I am talking about:

Ceiling sheet rock removed:
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...o/P1010313.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...o/P1010312.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...o/P1010314.jpg

see many of the staples and screws still have bits of sheetrock with
them.

Here is a view of some of the framing with the door jamb and the rough
opening removed. Apparently some of the lumber were nailed from the
other
side of the sister studs, so we got long nails sticking out:

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...o/P1010322.jpg

Is it reasonable to expect those to be removed?

No it is not stated in the contract, so if it's not spec'ed then it's
not
covered, then obviously I made a bad assumption and a back breaking
lesson
if I have to do it myself.

Thanks!

MC

Trying to follow the thread, you mentioned you visited the site
frequently... This would've been a perfect time to bring it up while
the workers/boss was there. Saves him time and effort.

Why would you remove the RO? (changing a wall?) I'm just a DIY person,
but those headers don't seem to have enough support. Did you go too
far in lumber removal - too expose the header nails?

BTW, protect that wire!

--
Oren

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The interesting thing in this thread is that no one has answered the
actual question. And that is if anyone has had similar demo work
done, if it's not specifically called out in the contract, did it
include removal of the sheetrock nails, screws, etc that are on the
stud faces?

My own oppiniion is that it should, because the nails/screws are part
of the sheetrock surface that is specd for removal in the contract.
The contract also says all debris are to be removed, which might also
be construed to mean the nails still in the studs, however I think
viewing it as part of the sheetrock surface is more appropriate.

I don't think the contractor should be required to remove the nails
left sticking out that were driven in around the door frame from the
other side. Those nails were not part of the material being removed,
but are part of the rest of the structure.


Well since I did not specific in the contract, then it lies with me. I will
try to get rid of the ones on the studs myself, and perhaps hire the drywall
people to deal with the ceiling ones.

I don't think there is a tool designed to remove exposed nails/staples
right?

MC