krw wrote
Rod Speed wrote
krw wrote:
lid says...
krw wrote
I'm quite familiar with the concept. You, OTOH, haven't heard
that LLF went out with button hooks. It's been at least 20 years
since users were capable of doing a LLF. The hardware ain't there.
Low-level format is a necessity. If your drive wasn't low-level
formatted (which must be done at the factory), it would be unusable.
Bull****. It is *only* done at the factory as part of the
manufacturing process. The drive cannot function without the
formatting. That is, the user cannot LLF a modern drive. Speaking
of a drive's LLF is meaningless.
HIGH level formatting is what your computer does.
That's writing the OS to the sectors created by LLF.
The LLF is done by specialized hardware. LLF is really a meaningless
concept on modern drives. There is no "unformatted size".
To confuse matters, people are CALLING something they can do a LLF,
when it just writes 0 bytes to existing sectors. It's not a LLF at all.
Nope. It's writing '0's to the disk. ;-)
(which really is irrelevant to the disk size issue, they simply use a different
definition of a megabyte, manufacturers define it at 1,000,000 bytes,
Which is what I said.
while the os works only in numbers divisible by 8, starting at the kilobyte)
Divisible by 8? Not many PCs use octal.
None do. They use binary. Other bases (octal, decimal, hexadecimal,
etc...) do not exist within the computer, but are just ideas
present in the users' minds.
Of course, sorta. The PDP-11 was an octal machine
No it isnt.
(three-bit op-code fields),
That doesnt make it an octal machine.
Sure it does Ron, as much as it is a binary machine.
Nope. Binary is the fundamental organisation of the machine.
Octal and hex are just convenient representations
of binary for humans, a different matter entirely.
Of course you're only in this for the argument, as usual,
Corse you never ever do anything like that yourself, eh ?
so I'll let you have it your way.
You get no say what so ever on that or anything else at all, ever.
even some documentation and panel markings were in hexadecimal.
It's just as correct to call binary the figment of the imagination.
Nope, thats what the hardware does, the others are just
representations of binary that are more convenient for humans.
Nope. I choose to group the hardware in threes.
Nope, the PDP11 doesnt even do that. Most of its ops are on bytes, not 3 bit groups.
It's then octal.
Nope.
Maybe the number you're looking for is 1,048,576 which is 2^20.
I'm not the one with the elementary arithmetic problem.
I'm not the one with Ron syndrome either.
You clearly have a massive problem between those ears tho, whatever you call it.