John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:22:54 GMT, "Jon Slaughter"
wrote:


"John Larkin" wrote in
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On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 19:46:15 GMT, "Jon Slaughter"
wrote:



In any case. I suppose its people like you that perpetuate the
problem. I
wonder how your kids will feel about it in 50 years when they see
there kids
lifes are going to be totally destroyed. Ofcourse what do you care
about your grandkids futures?


My wife's grandfather was an illegal immigrant from Ireland. Twice,
actually; they kicked him out the first time he jumped ship, so he
changed his name and did it again. He was a rather gifted
mathematician, but, being Irish, was an undesirable. The guy who
does our pcb layout and mechanical design is Mexican, and I've
never seen anyone with his talent for placement and routing and
power pours. We let him lay out the boards, and then we design our
FPGAs around his pinouts. The boards are plain beautiful.

We are in fact ripping off Mexico (and India, and some other places,
like we ripped off Ireland and Italy and others in the past) by
swiping their brightest and most ambitious people. That's how people
like you and me came to be born here.


And who's fault is that? Do you realize that if these gifted people
stayed in their own country that maybe it would be a better place?

I thought I made that point.

Their not going
to do that because they don't want to make the sacrifice.

Theres a huge difference between people comming over now and our
ancestors who came over. Our ancestors fault and sacrified there
lives for there freedom. These people who come over now don't. Tens
of thousands also died for our freedom in the world wars and you,
me, and the rest of us are living off that. The illegal mexicans are
not.

What happens is you have something similar to positive feedback...
and you of most people should recognize this. Its not just americas
fault but also the people who choose to come here.

There's that sort of positive feedback within the US, too. I came to
California from Louisiana, to be where the action is, and to see if I
was good enough to compete with the pros. Louisiana suffers form
centuries of brain drain, as does a lot of small, poor countries.


I'm not so much against legal immigration though than I am against
illegal immigration. You are completely missing the point because
you are trying to confuse the issue with legal immigration. My
mexican friend is legal and I have no issues with him being here.
But illegal immigration is a huge difference. The problems come from
that. I'm sorry if they want to have a better life but they need to
fix the problem themselfs instead of dragging me down with them.


How are immigrants dragging you down?

I don't much care for all the illegals either, but ISTM that the impetus of
this thread has been more to create a racist outlet, than to make a
political statement about the current state of US immigration. Maybe it's
just me though. What do you think John? I didn't think that things could
sink much lower, but live and learn I guess.