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MassiveProng wrote:
On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 19:54:03 -0500, "Anthony Fremont"
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MassiveProng wrote:
On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 19:15:15 -0500, "Anthony Fremont"
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OTOH, why shouldn't I be able to rip my HD DVD to my MythTV box and
play them back as HD? Huh why not? It's only fair use. You just
don't get it.

Nope. Fair use was about broadcast signals. You lose.


Fair use is about anything you stupid mother****er. It's a basic
part of copyright law, not some technical aspect of broadcasting.



Try this one to see where it applies to your current viewpoint.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital..._Copyright_Act


You just don't get it. I'm going to explain this once, so please try to
read it thoroughly. The DMCA is the result of a concerted effort by big
business lobbying to make it a federal offense for you to try and make "fair
use" of a "protected" piece of media. Not protected as in covered by
copyrights specifically, but protected as in encrypted. If you break the
encryption, you break the law. It takes the "fair use" issue right out of
the picture. It's actually pretty clever on their part IMO, getting the
federal gov to prop up their buggy whip business like that. Unfortunately
for them though, as pieces of it are tested in court, things aren't going so
well. Lexmark tried to use this BS against a company making knock-off
printer cartridges. It didn't fly, they lost in court. Seems that it was
"fair" to break their measly protection (no real protection at all, but that
isn't really the issue) in order to manufacture a compatible product. Real
patent/copyright law won out. Hopefully more of the same will occur.

HDMI and HDCP aren't required by law, they are required by the RIAA and
MPAA. The DMCA law requires that you don't try and break whatever sort of
cheezy protection scheme they implement, even if it's as simple as ignoring
a single bit flag in a broadcast stream. You see, ignoring the broadcast
flag makes it illegal to record the show, it's not a real copyright law
violation per se. There's a fine line of distinction here, please try to
understand it.

Copying a DVD to a hard disk is completely legal under all constitutionaly
proven copyright law, using DECSS to unlock it is not under DMCA. So the
only point I've been trying to make all along is that real copyright laws
won't decide what you can do or not do, hollywood will on a whim by chosing
whether to "lock" something or not. I'm betting that everything gets
locked.

If you don't think money will buy the RIAA whatever they want, think back at
the congressmen (as in plural) that tried to introduce legislation making it
legal for the RIAA to actively attack filesharing computers that they
"believed" were serving up copyrighted material without any proof whatsoever
and in complete conflict with all current legislation regarding hacking.

I don't want to steal anything, I just want to use what is rightfully mine
to use the way I see fit.