On Jul 11, 9:15?am, " wrote:
On Jul 11, 6:35?am, wrote:





Well, when the plumber jackhammered the slab at the old repair site in
the utility room next to the heater, it was leaking, but a few inches
beyond his repair. He had to go around the other side of the wall to
the den, pull up the rug, and drill another hole there. The pipe was
really corroded and full of pinhole leaks. He managed to patch it for
now. Cost was $800 (discount because I paid $1400 the first time).

He said the copper pipe was Type M stick copper, vs. Type L which
should have been used. The plumber and the owner said they never saw
such bad pipe. On the first "dig", he found a scrap piece of rebar
against the pipe. Maybe that was a factor.

Anyway, neither they nor I think this is a long term fix. They
suggest rerouting the pipe. Since the heater is on the far side of the
house from the supply line AND the heater (poor house design), the
plumber recommends rerouting both hot and cold. He suggests rerouting
underground around the back of the house. So they will still be
buried, but at least not under the slab. total cost estimate is
$6400, less $500 credit (from last repair) and $300 off if they can
easily tap into all the other plumbing. It would not be exactly
"direct" across the back, as I'll need to add on s few feet around the
patio and deck.

Here is what is required:

1) Move my service from the front left of the house to the back left
2) Run about 60 ft (???) of L coppersupply line to back right of house
to heater in utility room
3) Run same L copper supply from utility room to back left
4) Hot and cold into powder room to tie into trunk if possible. Not
quite sure how difficult this will be until they cut sheet rock. We
really don't know yet if the kitchen sink (middle of house) and
upstairs 2 baths can be accessed here (hope so)
5) 2 new hose bibbs
6) Cold water line from utility room across garage ceiling and into
kitchen for refrig. ice maker

I will need to patch the sheet rock.

Currently it takes a minute or 2 to get hot water. It sill be a
little longer, adding the additional few feet to go outside around the
patio - maybe 15 or 20 ft longer. Still a foot underground, so not
much different from being under the slab.

Any comments?

could add at little expense recurilatring pump to have hot water all
the time at bathroom. either manually operated push button a few
minutes later get shower water nice and hot, or a motion detector to
do essentially the same thing .

a point of use electric tank at the sink might be a nice add, just
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USE PEX its way cheaper and easier to work with, tolerates minor
freezes, and is self insulating. so that long run of hot water will be
mch hotter when it finally arrives.

get more prices i bet with pex and perhaps you do the digging the long
run you can do it for 1/2 the estimate, and have a better job too

100 feet of pex 34 bucks