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On Jun 14, 7:51 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Joseph Meehan" wrote in message

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....except for the mercury in CFL bulbs. We need a solution to the
disposal problem, and fast.


Current CFL's have very little mercury and save enough energy
that if supplied by a coal fired plant, the mercury reduced at the
plant is greater than that in the lamp.


--
Joseph Meehan


Everybody's a comedian tonight.


?????? Are you saying you don't agree?


Actually, it's irrelevant. Mercury in landfills will be a more
concentrated point source, and therefore a potential threat to nearby
communities.


I seldom say this, but THAT's CRAZY.


OK, there is some potential logic to it, but it really does not hold
up.


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Joseph Meehan


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Because, nothing you say makes sense. You're even arguing with
Joseph now, who tried to support your position. And despite your
unsupported attempts to claim Cheney somehow allowed power companies
to spew mercury, below are the actual facts. Like every plan to deal
with pollution in the real world, there is going to be disagreement.
And nothing will ever satisfy the kook environmentalist extremists,
who are against everything. A classic example is wind power.
That's all the environmentalists have been bitching about for years.
We should rely on solar and wind. Well, guess what? Here in NJ
there is a plan to start building offshore windmills to generate
electricity. Guess whose blocking that? Why, the
environmentalists, of course. Same thing off Cape Cod.

The cap and trade program may not be perfect. But it's more than we
had in the past and will REDUCE mercury emissions. BTW, if you don't
like cap and trade, what do you think about all the environmentalists,
like Al Gore that think trading carbon offsets is peachy keen, and
cleanses their hands as they ride in private jets and live in multiple
10,000 sq ft houses? That kook concept has no cap and it's one of
the biggest frauds ever perpetrated.

Oh, and BTW, it's kind of stupid to cite Harry Reid in your
arguments. Last time I checked, he runs the Senate and his party
controls both houses of Congress. So, if they don't like the mercury
limits, they are free to pass legislation any time.


http://www.epa.gov/oar/mercuryrule/basic.htm
On March 15, 2005, EPA issued the first-ever federal rule to
permanently cap and reduce mercury emissions from coal-fired power
plants. This rule makes the United States the first country in the
world to regulate mercury emissions from coal-fired power plants.

The Clean Air Mercury Rule will build on EPA's Clean Air Interstate
Rule (CAIR) to significantly reduce emissions from coal-fired power
plants -- the largest remaining sources of mercury emissions in the
country. When fully implemented, these rules will reduce utility
emissions of mercury from 48 tons a year to 15 tons, a reduction of
nearly 70 percent.
CAIR and the Clean Air Mercury Rule are important components of the
Bush Administration's plan to improve air quality. The Administration
remains committed to working with Congress to help advance the
President's Clear Skies legislation in order to achieve greater
certainty and nationwide emission reductions, but believes the U.S.
needs regulations in place now.
EPA believes it makes sense to address mercury, SO2 and NOx emissions
simultaneously through CAIR and the Clean Air Mercury Rule. These
rules will protect public health and the environment without
interfering with the steady flow of affordable energy for American
consumers and business.
The Clean Air Mercury Rule establishes "standards of performance"
limiting mercury emissions from new and existing coal-fired power
plants and creates a market-based cap-and-trade program that will
reduce nationwide utility emissions of mercury in two distinct phases.
The first phase cap is 38 tons and emissions will be reduced by taking
advantage of "co-benefit" reductions - that is, mercury reductions
achieved by reducing sulfur dioxide (SO2) and nitrogen oxides (NOx)
emissions under CAIR. In the second phase, due in 2018, coal-fired
power plants will be subject to a second cap, which will reduce
emissions to 15 tons upon full implementation.
New coal-fired power plants ("new" means construction starting on or
after Jan. 30, 2004) will have to meet stringent new source
performance standards in addition to being subject to the caps.
Mercury is a toxic, persistent pollutant that accumulates in the food
chain. Mercury in the air is a global problem. While fossil fuel-fired
power plants are the largest remaining source of human-generated
mercury emissions in the United States, they contribute only a small
amount (about 1 percent) of total annual mercury emissions worldwide.
EPA's modeling shows that CAIR will significantly reduce the majority
of the coal-fired power plant mercury emissions that deposit in the
United States, and those reductions will occur in areas where mercury
deposition is currently the highest. The Clean Air Mercury Rule is
expected to make additional reductions in emissions that are
transported regionally and deposited domestically, and it will reduce
emissions that contribute to atmospheric mercury worldwide.
Mercury Emissions