On 2007-06-01 16:40:11 +0100, "
said:

On Jun 1, 4:20 pm, Andy Hall wrote:
On 2007-06-01 14:21:52 +0100, "
said:

On Jun 1, 1:01 pm, Andy Hall wrote:
On 2007-06-01 12:10:11 +0100, "
said:

But you're a tradesman and depend upon your tools. It's different for
occasional DIY use. The OP didn't specify what they want it for.

There is not a correlation between the notion of "occasional DIY use"
and whether or not the tool is good enough for the job.

Either it is, or it isn't.

It is.

Which is fortunate.


It's no les than I expected from a reputable retailer at a particular
price point. I don't think good fortune comes intoi it.

Expectation and what you will get are two different things.

Price point is highly influential on service that will be delivered.
It is not realistic to expect the same level of service for a £25
unknown router from Argos as it is a DeWalt at ten times that price
from a specialist tool supplier.

In the event of a dispute, a court will take the same view, as will the
credit card company.

In that sense, it is a matter of fortune, although one can exercise a
degree of control.




It might be safe, accurate, usable, repeatable and adequately powered,
but only rated to run for 10 minutes each fortnight. That would be
reasonable DIY use, but is not likely to be found in one tool.

10 mins/fortnight sounds like occasional use to me.

Yes it is, but is a separate issue to quality.

I never said it wasn't. You're the one who keeps going on about
quality.

Yes, because there are only two factors to consider that actually make
any difference:

- Quality of outcome and use

- Price.

Frequency of use is irrelevant. Either one wants to achieve a price
point or a level of quality or to trade those two.

Once that is determined, the discussion is about where to source the
appropriate tool - buy it or rent it.




More likely is that it will fall short on most or all of these issues
or be adequate for the purpose.

It was adequate for the purpose, all purposes during the 5 years I've
had it.

Then that's fine.


Exactly! The product is fine for occasional DIY use.


No, no. That assumes that "DIY" defines a level of quality. It
doesn't at all. In the minds of some people, price is an important
factor and understanably so. However, the concept that something is
"fine for occasional DIY use" is completely meaningless unless one is
making an implied assumption that the level of quality of result for
"DIY" is low.