On 2007-05-19 12:17:36 +0100, (Peter Ashby) said:

Andy Hall wrote:

On 2007-05-19 10:03:55 +0100, (Peter Ashby) said:

The Medway Handyman wrote:

avocado wrote:
If your ceiling is that bad - what are your arteries like?

Probably fine. There is no scientifically proven link between a high fat
diet and blocked arteries leading to heart disease.

Yes there is, it just involves people with genetic predisposition that
shows itself when they eat a high fat diet. It also of course depends on
the sort of fat as to how bad it is for you.

The point is that genetic testing is expensive and we're not sure we
have identified all the relevant alleles, so it is easier to assume you
are at risk and act accordingly.

Peter

Unfortunately, the food industries then go overboard on that and
neglect the point that so called low fat products simply substitute fat
for sugars and other unsuitable carbohydrates. Meanwhile, the medical
establishment goes overboard on recommending high carbohydrate diet
with little attention paid to glycaemic index and load.

Not any more.

Go take a look at the NICE recommendations on the subject.



Since excess carbohydrate is processed into various types of fat, it is
misleading to suggest that fat intake of itself is a/the major factor
in arterial blocking.

Again, you are out of date.

On the contrary.



Moreover, since much medical research is funded by the food and drugs
conglomerates,

Wrong. You are confusing drug development with medical research. The
vast majority of medical research in the UK is funded by the research
councils or the charities.

I'm not talking about the UK - far too narrow a view. If you look on
a global basis, you will find that a high proportion of medical
research projects have funding from commercial interests. There is
nothing inherently wrong with commercial support of research provided
that the interests are declared and outcomes scrutinised.





projects and their outcomes tend to be funded to the
benefit of these organisations - e.g. eat low fat products and fix your
lipid profile with a statin.

My wife doesn't need statins, the diet is working just fine.

Peter

I have the opposite situation. My lipid profile is highly influenced
by carbohydrate intake and timing thereof and hardly at all by fat
intake.

It illustrates your earlier point that there is a genetic
predisposition and a variation around the population. A one size fits
all low fat diet is no more universally suitable that a one size fits
all low carbohydrate diet.