On Apr 15, 11:52 am, wrote:
On Apr 14, 9:26 pm, "Himpg" wrote:
Of course you aren't for free choice. You came in here asking people
to lobby to have CAFE standards increased to 44MPG in two years.
ABSOLUTELY WRONG! I am requesting that you and others support
expansion of choice ... NOT AN ARGUE ABOUT CAFE!
BTW, as I stated before, anyone that thinks 44 MPG in 2 years is
reasonable or realistic, is clueless. You also sneer at 4% a year
increase in fuel economy a year as insignificant. That rate would
give you about a 50% increase in a decade. But, according to you,
that isn't good enough. Do you think you can just endlessly squeeze
more energy out of a gallon of gas or do the laws of physics still
prevail? Oh, and I forgot, you also want the cars to be big enough
and have enough features too, while getting 44MPG. Anything
else? Maybe make them gold plated too?
The 4% over a decade is funny. Here is a list of cars that already do
it ... looks for the names you already see on the roads of the USA.
http://www.40mpg.org/pdfs/021407_fue...ehicle_gap.xls
Oh, I see. You think the auto manufacturers R&D budgets are part of
the federal budget. Any other delusions you have that we can help
you with today?
There have been numerous partnerships between FORD/GM and DOE, EPA,
DARPA, and the list goes on since the 1980s.
The simple fact is that there are 10 cars widely available in the US
that get over 32/29 MPG. The best gets 60/51. So, stop whining and
trying to force some European sub sub **** box on the rest of us and
go buy one.- Hide quoted text -
Sorry to leave you with the impression that I was advocating
eliminating the current product options availabity. Under no
circumstances!
All I am asking for are a few more vehicle choices that get better
than 44 mpg(US) combined average. Both gasoline and turbo-diesels, for
those that want them.
You would not object to that would you?
OR ... are you trying to tell US that the only vehicles that we should
be allowed to purchase that get over 44 mpg(US) average are ONLY the
PRIUS and CIVIC hybrids? Those are the only choices!
Or between 35 and 44 mpg(US) average choices should be limited to the
Toyota Camry & Nissan Altima hybrids, Yaris (2), Corolla. Sorry that
is the limit of choices!
Source
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/byMPG.htm
Or are you saying EVERYONE should be driving large SUVs and pickups?
I think my expectations are reasonable, particularly since WE, the
TAXPAYERS, have been funding energy and emissions R&D for over 30
years and all of the advances are everywhere else in the world EXCEPT
North America (and Canada is proposing to force a change by 2010).
Here is my FULL position statement ... I hope you find that you CAN
SUPPORT IT:
"44 mpg(US) by 2010"
" ... not for ALL ... not for average CAFE ..."
"JUST CHOICES for those THAT WANT better than 44 mpg ..."
"waive import restriction (for 24 months - including diesels) if that
is the only way".
Thanks for at least looking over the material and thinking about it.