"Coyoteboy" wrote in message
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"Clint Sharp" wrote in message
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I don't work my ass off contributing my tax pounds to fund them for
nothing,

I dont wish to throw a spanner in the works but your tax pounds have very
little to do with UK universities these days. The vast majority of
undergraduate student funding is done by a)charging foreign students extra
(at least £11K per year, more depending on the course) to cover the loss
left over from only b)charging the home students 3K a year. Most
university
equipment is funded through industrially linked research (and industrial
donations), which has to be fully economically costed, meaning all
projects
have to be run as a business would including all costs inc office space,
technician time etc counted and charged to the project account - so they
cannot be considered to have an unfair advantage over industry. Research
council grants form a percentage of the money given to universities, but
only generally cover postgraduate projects which have to be fully
justified
and peer reviewed before acceptance. And even they are sponsored by
industry. If a group does not pull in funding for a year or two it is
effectively canned.

Uni's arent the public tax black hole they used to be, which is WHY they
have been forced (against their will, trust me) to create "micky mouse"
degrees which pull in people who will pay to do a course which takes
little
supervision and still generates the same cash per head. To have purely
"useful" degrees for the small minority who can acheive them through skill
and interest, as opposed to just taking it as a way to muck about for 3
years, is not financially viable - that target market is too small and
could
not collectively afford the actual cost of their tuition. If you want them
to drop their "micky mouse" degrees then you WILL pay for it in taxes!


We, the people, gave the uni's £7 Billion this year, seems more than a 'very
little'. They also garnered an additional £6 Billion by the means you
mention.
As a taxpayer, I -expect and want- to pay taxes for higher education. I want
this country to be a centre of excellence and am happy to contribute to this
end.
I am very unhappy to have to pay for the education of media studies
graduates, golf course designers and the other dalliances.
The mickey mouse degrees are actually a true reflection of our present
social culture and are here to stay. Few youngsters want the work entailed
studying subjects that would benefit the country in an industrial sense and
as the media studies people et al invariably come from well off, middle
class backgrounds and can pay their own way, then it's time the uni's were
forgotten and my taxes spent in more worthy areas. (Honest!).
1% of the population now own 50% of the country's wealth. 50% of the
population own 1%, hence the country is becoming little more than a large
offshore banking operation. Vastly wealthy bankers supported by a huge army
of servant workers. Industry? Technology?, forget it.
The Swiss are remembered for their Cuckoo clocks, we'll be remembered for
our bad plumbing.




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