"Lawrence" wrote in
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On Mar 25, 9:50 pm, Jim Yanik wrote:
"Lawrence" wrote
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On Mar 23, 10:06 pm, "Steve B" wrote:
"Ken Hall" wrote in message

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My garage was robbed yesterday and they stole over $1000 of
tools. I had collected these over years so I didn't buy them at
once and I can't afford to replace them all at once with the
quality I had. In fact, I'll never be able to afford to replace
the drill press with the same quality. So, I'm going to have to
make do with cheaper versions and upgrade to better ones over
time.

Probably the tool I use most is a bench grinder, so I've focused
on it first. Has anybody had any experience with this grinder?

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...f?Itemnumber=3
782 2

Yes, I know, Harbor Freight, but it's the best price I can find
on a grinder right now.

-- Ken

It's hard to answer that, Ken. The answer is yes, no, maybe, and
definitely!

Any tool choice you make is based on different variables. How
much are you going to use it? Does it need to be a quality
instrument, or will it achieve the goals you need for a lower
price? Is it going to be used to make you money, therefore it
can't have a sick day?

For what I use a bench grinder for, I could use any old thing. Or
cheap new thing. But, the thing is, by the time I burn out two or
three cheap ones, and move on to the fourth, I could have bought
one good one, and it would still be going strong. BUT, that
involves a larger initial outlay.

It's up to you. I like quality, not replacing it soon, good
performance. But then, I'm not in your boat of having to buy X
number of tools with XX number of $$$.

Bummer about being robbed. Too bad society frowns so much on
murder because some people don't deserve to be consuming oxygen.
I got hit a couple of years ago for about $3k. All it did was
make me do things I should have done in the first place with
regard to security.
Glad I'm moving soon to rural America soon, where shooting people
who are scrounging around on your property is legal. Expecially
after dark. No questions asked and minimal paperwork.

I live in the sticks and that's not exactly right.

Yes,it would depend on the individual state and local laws.
In Florida,I believe the new "Make my day" law has enabled people to
shoot to defend their property(no longer any "duty to retreat").
Texas has been said to have permissive laws on shooting trespassers
on your property. **check your local laws**

If you shoot a
person on your property regardless of the circumstance you are in a
world of civil and criminal trouble.

not necessarily.
Only if you're in Mass.,NY,Maryland,or other socialist states.
Most states allow shooting in self-defense "on your property" if you
believe you are in "grave danger",like if they came towards
you,perhaps with a weapon or tool.
**Gotta know your local laws.**

Questions will be asked and you
will be arrested. A round of buckshot over their heads will get
rid of them anyway, without any messy blood and bodies.

If that person is inside your home then you can shoot to kill,
without warning.

Not from behind.(no shots in the back,no shooting a fleeing
intruder);that is still interpreted as murder.

And you shoot to STOP,not "to kill".

--
Jim Yanik
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Ah yes, Mr. Janik.

That's Yanik.

Jim Yanik
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You always say you were shooting to stop when
asked. Indeed it varies from state to state and I should have said
so. My state is rather socialist which seem to suit me since I will
never live elsewhere.

The rules I quote are from my state, Minnesota. Everyone that I know
in the rural Northwoods protects their lives and property with deadly
force. I suspect the rural folk of other states do as well. It is
important to know the local law of course if yu want to stay out of
trouble.

One story I have is one day these kids heer were out stealing ATV's
aka four-wheeler motorcyles. It seems they were just going from house
to house on their ATV looking to steal another . I know it sounds
stupid.

They didn't find any at my place but when they got to the neighbors
place they found one and went to work. Knowing the local law, he fired
one blast of pellets over their heads. They decided it was time to
leave. So in these other states would a person be within the law to
actually shoot these kids?



Yes,Why not?

BTW,how old are these "kids"?

Old enough to drive ATVs unsupervised;old enough to know right from wrong.
(if they don't want to get shot,then they shouldn't trespass and steal)

Why do you excuse thievery?

and it's NOT stealing to feed one's family or self,nor a petty crime.
Just plain stealing,items worth a substantial amount of money,that the
owners WORKED hard to earn the money to buy them.
Owning property is a basic FREEDOM that citizens of the US enjoy,an
important freedom.Stealing from me takes away my freedom.

And I don't even want to hear that "insurance will cover it" CRAP;that just
spreads the costs of theivery around a bit,and there's still deductibles.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net