On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 00:18:30 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 22:39:31 -0500, Melanie
wrote:

Just had new roof, eavestroughs with flashing installed last spring.
This year we have these wet streaks running down one side of the house
(see pic here http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?i...898931qq3.jpg).

Did they screw up? Prior to having the work done, our original 40+ year
old gutters never did this at any time of the year (rain or snow melt
down)...

You never had them before, but you don't say when you have them now.

After rain maybe, but I've learned not to assume things.

I would tie my ankle to door and lean out the window to find out if
the eave is wet between the gutter and the wall. You might be able to
see that it is while still inside the window, especially if you use
binoculars, even for 3 or 4 feet, but I can imagine that the water
runs thin and you won't be able to see it.

You can probably take a piece of paper or cloth on a stick and touch
it to the eave and see if it comes back wet.

Maybe that is good enough. When I started I wanted you to touch the
eave in the middles horizontally of the wet marks, to make sure the
water was coming across the eave. But if you can tell with cloth on a
stick, you may not need to tie your ankle to the door. (STill, better
safe than sorry.)

If it is coming from the gutter, I guess it is his responsibility.

Been trying to get a hold of the roofer but wouldn't you know it they
never seem to return our calls! : (

I guess you call another gutter guy and get an estimate on what is
wrong, and what it will cost to fix. Best if he says on the estimate
that the current gutters were installed wrong.

Even better if he says that on the paid bill, but if he says it, I
would insist that he put it on the bill before I hired him to do it.

Because courts want some connection between your second bill that
shows inferior work done by the first guy. The pictures will help a
bit but a statement by an expert, anotehr gutter guy, will help much
more.

And the next step is to sue the first guy if you are honestly
convinced that the water is coming from the gutter and that it's the
guttery guy's fault.

Maybe you should leave a message saying what you plan to do, hire
someone else and sue for the cost, and that will get him to return
your call.

There comes a point where one loses faith, and wants someone else. I
don't know where that point is.

But you should also consider the possibility that his wife was in an
accident and is in a coma and he's spending every minute by her side
in the hospital, and can't be bothered with calls from anyone but
doctor and the specialist. Or a hundred other possilities that could
fairly prevent him from returning the calls.

That doesn't mean you shouldn't hire someone else, or sue, and collect
your damages, but you shouldn't rush it except to prevent damage to
your house, if that is going to happen. Nor should you delay
excessively. But you shouldn't feel anger or hate.

We judge others by their actions and we judge ourselves by our
intentions. Which is pretty much like saying that when we have a good
excuse for not getting something done, we take that into consideration
and don't blame ourselves (Heck, we do that even the reason isn't a
good one.)


If anybody could offer their wisdom I'd really appreciate it...it will
also help once I get a hold of our roofer...

Thanks in advance!
Melanie


If you haven't had ice dams you have a roof leak