On Mar 8, 12:16 am, "Sev" wrote:
On Mar 6, 1:43?pm, dgk wrote:







We very well might have had the best intentions in the world in
installing the Shah. We didn't, but that is for another day. The point
is, our support for the Shah eliminated all moderate secular
opposition, and left only the radical clerics. Thus the history that
apparently began with the "open act of war" needs a bit of
explanation.

We gave support to both Iran and Iraq during the war, happy to see as
many dead on both sides as possible. Pragmatic for you possibly, but I
think that our role in that war was disgusting.

To the best of my knowledge, much of gold's value is that it does not
tarnish. For the record, I would be happy to find gold bars in my
backyard. Oddly enough, last year some sort of sinkhole opened in my
yard. There was, unfortunately, nothing but air inside. It took much
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Heavy dirt? I suspect you are concealing a nuclear reprocessing
facility in your back yard. Call in a bunker buster...
More seriously, you and I are on the same page. You have to
wonder sometimes where we would be today if we had practiced the most
naive goodwill imaginable over the past generation or two, instead of
all this righteous skulduggery. Far, far better off than we are, I
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You mean like the naive goodwill of Neville Chanberlain, when he went
around kissing Hitler's ass? Or the benign neglect when the world
ignored Pol Pot? Or how about Idi Amin? Remember him? Or
Stalin? Maybe we should have sent these guys a big pile of foreign
aid and a birthday cake, while they murderd millions of people. Then
they would have been nice guys, right?

Amazing how appeasers like you take every opportunity to blame the US
for everything that goes wrong. This country has been far more
generous and sent more money and aid to countries around the world
than any other. Open a history book and learn. What did we do after
WWII, when we had to finally stop two brutal regimes bent on world
conquest, after the world had followed your naive ideas? Did we
enslave our conquered enemies? Take their countries over? No, we
sent what in today's dollars would be trillions in aid, rebuilt
Germany and Japan, helped rebuild all of Western Europe, and
established democratic governments. But that ain;t good enough for
USA bashing guys like you, who just **** and moan and only look at
anything that you can find wrong with the USA, while ignoring the real
evil in the world.