On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:52:12 GMT, Lobby Dosser
wrote:

J. Clarke wrote:

On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 04:24:23 GMT, Lobby Dosser
wrote:

J. Clarke wrote:

On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 02:49:02 GMT, Lobby Dosser
wrote:

Mark & Juanita wrote:

So, given that everything observed is evidence of global warming,
the
thing to ask the proponents of this theory, is "what evidence
would be required to refute this theory?" When everything is
cited as evidence of a theory and nothing as evidence to dispute
it, then one needs to start questioning the person postulating the
theory.


Facts:

1. CO2 reflects infrared radiation.

2. The earth gives off infrared radiation.

3. When infrared radiation reflects back to earth, the global
temperature rises

4. Human produced CO2 can be distinguished from that produced by
other sources.

How?

Determining the carbon isotope ratios.

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=87

And what we have from there is that humans are producing some
quantityt of CO2 from fossil fuels. Well _duh_.

It's a long way from there to "humans have caused a massive increase
in CO2 levels in the past 150 years",

37%

And that is based on isotope ratios? That's not what you link said.

and it's an even bigger stretch
from there to "human should immediately and forthwith cease to produce
CO2" and then there is the main point of the econuts which is that
"The United States should immediately and forthwith cease to produce
CO2 while China and the rest of the world massively increase _their_
pollution", which is basically what the "Kyoto accords" require.

Not that I said that ...




5. Humans are not necessarily the sole cause of global warming.