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On Feb 16, 9:23?pm, "Bob F" wrote:
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One question, when re-wiring an outlet, for instance to replace the
old
useless Romex with clipped grounds, with fresh new 12/2 - how do you
tell
where the wire goes? I mean how do you tell without hacking chunks
out
of
the wall?

Why do you *care* where the old cable goes?

Run the new cable however you can, or however you must, to get it to
where you
need to get it. Disconnect the old cable at both ends and abandon it
in
place.

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Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

There are a few reasons why someone might care. One it's sloppy
construction, but that's not a big deal to me. Two, I would like to
recycle the old wire. Three, it would be nice to be able to use the
old
wire to pull the cable run for the new wire - which is why I care
where
it goes.

Fishing a new cable into an existing box is routine for old work
electricians. There are a lot of ways to do it. If you have attic
access
you can try pulling the old cable out but it is pretty unlikely to
work.
A
small sash chain dropped down and a long wire with a hook will work
most
times. You can get a little access around the box where the repair
will
be
covered by the plate. The best thing is a friend who has experience as
an
old work electrician.

Don Young

I got one of those (friend who's done lots of old work electrical). I
watched him pull his old aluminum Romex at his place and replace it with
copper - so it can't be useless or impossible to pull the old stuff like
Miller is claiming. It wasn't easy though and he did need to punch a few
holes in the wall. I guess I'll wait then, he doesn't fly back into the
country until May'ish.

If you want to patch holes in the wall, great. I would choose to
abandon the old wire if it is stapled in place.

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Yeah the old wire is basically valueless, after you go to all the
removal work and strip all the insulation and patch the excess holes
you will HAVE to make.

Far easier to bag groceries, and pay will be better



You know that's NOT what you said when I asked a similar question back a
ways. Google "Saving Romex" and I see you name with a response, very
helpful response too, and I see your response here and it's (in my mind)
totally at odds with what you said some 6 months ago. What gives?