On 11 Feb, 14:57, (Andrew Gabriel) wrote:
In article ,
Grunff writes:

A big concern I have is that lots of it needs peer review.
This means it isn't the group's collective wisdom, unlike
a thread here or an article in the main DIY FAQ. I would
be concerned if it was promoted on a level footing as it
currently stands. That's not to knock the contributors in
any way who've clearly been working hard -- it's just that
there aren't enough of them working on each article, and
until there are, it isn't the group's collective wisdom
and mustn't be promoted as such.

I think thats something that takes time. The wiki is right at the
beginning. I'd assume most readers know what a wiki is and isnt, but
if that isnt so there could be a link at the bottom of pages
explaining what it is. I see there already is, but people could be
forgiven for not clicking on it.


Having spent some time correcting one article and adding
appropriate safety precautions which were missing, I was
somewhat ****ed to find most of that stripped out.

Are you referring to the clothes dryer article? If so I spent enough
time trying to find material to back up what you'd written, and simply
could find nothing to back it up, only various reasons to believe the
opposite.

Just so we both understand each other's position on what went on
there, when adding another information section I removed bits that
were incorrect, incorporated bits that were fair views of yours, even
if I didnt entirely agree, and added info addressing the issues you'd
raised. I also returned a small number of valid points you'd removed.

This is a basic weakeness of wikis in that there is not much
opportunity to discuss to clarify the points people make in articles.
I did invite some information on what you'd written on the talk page,
and waited a while, but none was forthcoming.

What we need is either to use the talk pages to communicate and
understand the different points presented, or to bring differences of
opinion here to discuss.

In this case I removed a fair bit because I could simply find nothing
anywhere that indicated it to be right, and only found the opposite.
As I'm sure you do have reasons behind what you wrote, why dont you
expain some of it here on ukdiy, and we can move closer to some
concensus.


It's
very unlikely that I (or others) will waste our time if
that sort of thing continues.

I wish it were as easy as 'I say so' but its not. I've had mixed
feelings about a wiki approach because good material will get removed
and work undone, but I think when that occurs it means that if the
info is to be presented and stay there it needs to be explained,
backed up with references or calculations, etc.

The Wiki concept is about finding common ground, addressing more than
one view, and backing up what views are presented. So I invite you to
discuss your input to the clothes dryer article.


NT