On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 23:24:43 UTC, "Clive George"
wrote:

"Bob Eager" wrote in message
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On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 21:48:39 UTC, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

OTOH streaming also needs to be flexible. The Grammar/Secondary modern
"streaming" doesn't work in a lot of ways. Streaming within a school
for
certain subjects does though. But the more mixing, the better.

Small class sizes and streaming works. We had three streams in every
subjet to O level..I was in top streams for some., bottom for others.

What's interesting is that (so I'm told by someone who knows) selective
schools generate, statistically, better results for all pupils (not just
for the grammar school ones). This is because of the reduction in mixed
ability classes.

Yebbut non-selective schools doesn't imply mixed ability classes. And I do
know of at least one case where the school does do mixed ability and
apparently does so rather well.

The real killer with selective schooling is what happens on the wrong side
of the 11+. Consigning the kids to the 'lower status' school doesn't produce
good results - and there is no doubt that it is a lower status.

Round here, the population isn't dense enough to support a local grammar
schoool (although we were promised one 15 years ago).

You never answered my question about whether or not it had a non-selective
secondary school - does it?

Sorry, missed that bit. Yes, it does... but it doesn't do mixed ability
well. I have experience of that from the other end, since I deal with
its output...

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