"George E. Cawthon" wrote in message

As for self-cleaning oven, who wants it. Costs money to operate, probably
reduces the life of every element of the stove (including the circuit
board) because of heat.

Thanks for the reminder. I'll clean our oven today since it is very cold
and the heat from the oven is just more heat that I need from some source
anyway. I'd never do it in the summer when we run the AC though.