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Default Planned Obselescence....A Good Thing?

clare at snyder.on.ca wrote
Rod Speed wrote
lsmartino wrote
Rod Speed wrote
lsmartino wrote
Rod Speed wrote
clare at snyder.on.ca wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Too_Many_Tools wrote


What explains the electric toothbrushes that don't have
replaceable batteries? You have to toss a $60-$120
device just because a $5 battery has failed.


Using the battery to enforce product obscelence
is standard practice in the industry.


Mindlessly superficial. The reality is that its a lot easier to
allow battery replacement with some items than with others.


I totally disagree.


Your problem.


No reason they can't make a new standard - Lithium Polymer
battery pack about the size of a SD card that just snaps into a
device.


Wrong again. There's a real problem with Lithium anything
and separate chargers. Thats why you dont see the standard
AA and AAA cells in Lithium anything format either.


Sorry but you are missinformed.


Nope.


Check here
http://www.energizer.com/products/lithium/default.aspx
These are AA and AAA lithium batteries.


Those arent the RECHARGEABLE batterys being discussed.


Pity they wont fit in an ipod. And arent practical with electric
toothbrushes either.


The point is that consumer AA an AAA lithium batteries are available.


Nope, not the RECHARGEABLE batterys being discussed.


There are lithium batteries made to take the place of 2 AA
batteries side by side in cameras and radios etc that use 2 AA
batteries.(RCR-V3) (CR2) They are available rechargeable.


Yes, but they arent the standard format being discussed.

AAs are be a bit of a trick because of the 3.7 volt standard. But I HAVE
seen them. Also the camera standard RCR123a is available in rechargeable
Lithium. Also rechargeable lithium ion 9 volts (can't find the number)


Yes, but they arent the standard format being discussed.

Its no news that there are a host of special purpose removable
rechargable lithium batterys, virtually all laptops, notebooks,
PDAs. cameras, cellphones, etc etc etc have them.

I HAVE A CHARGER FOR THE LITHIUM 123A


PITY ITS NOT A STANDARD AA OR AAA BATTERY.

Thatīs the point, not if these batteries can be fitted to an IPOD or a Thootbrush.


Wrong, see the top of the quoting.


You said that Lithium batteries werenīt available in standard sizes


Yes, and it should have been obvious that what was being discussed
was RECHARGEABLE batterys.


and I proved you that you were wrong.


No you didnt.


Also, there are smaller lithium batteries available for watches and
calculators.


Those arent RECHARGEABLE either.


Even there are *user replaceable lithium batteries* for cellphones
and laptops,


Yes, I said that.


which further demonstrates the concept that rechargeable lithium
batteries can, and in fact are produced, in a variety of formats.


Pity they arent practical with external chargers because of the
real problem with RECHARGEABLE lithium batterys in that format.


There's a reason they go bang if not RECHARGED properly.