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Default Planned Obselescence....A Good Thing?

lsmartino wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Michael Kennedy wrote


Separate matter entirely to the mindlessly silly claim that
its even possible to design an appliance to break about a
year after the warranty runs out, with most appliances.


Why do you say it is impossible?


Because it is impossible ? Novel concept I realise.


Please explain how the manufacturer of a light bulb, fluorescent
lamp or CFL can provide an estimate of the lifetime of the lamp.


That is trivial to do by running an adequate sized batch of
incandescent light bulbs under appropriate test conditions etc.

Donīt say "They canīt because itīs impossible".
Explain exactly why itīs impossible.


Its up to those who claim that its possible to design a device
to die one year after the warrant expires how that can be done.

When designing the product the engineers figure the
average useage of the appliance every day and then
calculate about how long it will take before a failure.


Nice theory. The reality is that that isnt even
possible with most domestic appliances.


It isnt even feasible with stuff as basic as an incandescent light
bulb. A CFL in spades. A moulded power cord or plug pack in spades.


They also do product reliability testing to see
how long on average it is before a product fails.


No they dont with domestic appliances.


They dont even do that with mass market hard drives anymore.


Yes they do.


No they dont.

The quote the useful lifetime of a hardrive in MTBF hours.


That is calculated, not measured. Convert that MTBF
to years and you will discover why they cant possibility
have tested them to get those numbers.

Donīt answer "itīs impossible" if you are not prepared to give
a real explanation. Samsung, Seagate, WD... any decent hard
drive manufactures gives an estimate lifetime of their products.
These estimates are provided in the datasheet of each harddrive.


And they are ESTIMATES, not measured results.