Too_Many_Tools wrote:

In terms of energy efficiency, many new electronics are
more energy gluttons than the old ones they replace.

And plenty aint too.

Many electronics today have "always on" features where
they continuously draw current even when shut off.

And plenty take bugger all power in that mode now.

Couple this with others who use wall
transformers that continuously draw current.

Plenty use switch mode plug packs now too.

If one wishes to reduce your energy bill, the first thing
you need to do is remove all these parasitic power users.

Wrong again. I use electric for all heating and cooling
and that completely swamps any effect those have.

The irony is those of us who are serious about cutting our power bills seek
out the older electronics because they do not siphon power when not used.

Anyone with a clue, which obviously counts you out, has enough of a
clue to continue to use the current products and chooses those which
use switch mode plug packs and have minimal standby power use.

It is true that some refrigerators, freezers
and air conditioners are more efficient

All of them are, actually.

but you also need to consider the depreciation
cost of your money when replacing the unit.

Yes, but that usually pays for itself quite quickly because the improvements
are significant, particularly with the dinosaur stuff from the 50s etc.

The push to replace older appliances is a push to sell new ones and for power
companies not to have to build new power plants....it is not about you saving money.

Wrong again. Its actually about doing both.


Tracey wrote:
"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message
ups.com...
In my opinon...no.

I intentionally try to have older appliances, vehicles, machines to
lower repair costs and keep overall ownership cost to a minimum.

Your thoughts?

One thing that you might not have considered is Energy Efficiency.
Sure, your refrigerator from 1950 might appear to be working
fabulously. However, it probably costs an awful lot more in
electricity to operate it than a newer model would cost. Likewise
with your hot water heater, oven, diswasher, washing machine, etc.

Its just something else to keep in mind...