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I pulled down the lose stuff, appear o have found leaky area although
60 year old copper waste lines covered with white deposits probably
pinhole leaks.

Thus begins a new ill timed project

At least the brownies turned out. Fixing the ceiling is cheap compared to
what you will end up with in the rest of the kitchen now that you have to
get started.

I found a leak in a joint on my baseboard heat this morning. If curse, this
is under the steps of a split entry. You know the place, where all the
boxes for Christmas decorations are stored. Seems to be little or no
serious damage, just a PITA.