On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:29:54 GMT, "SBFan2000"
wrote:

My God, what is the problem? Did you not read that I have already found and
are "looking at a few sources." I'm not so stupid as to not try google.
The supplier I'm looking at now has everything you could imagine. Their
catalog is nearly 1000 pages. I was just wondering if anyone out there had
any sources that they use that might be better.

Yes I did read. Your query was'

"Anyone got a good supplier for PCB components!..."

If you caught the gist of my reply then it will have been apparent
that I was saying virtually ALL electronic components are capable of
being PCB mounted so any component supplier has "PCB components".
However, some suppliers specialise in certain types of components only
and not others. Without knowing the family or type of components you
want then we can't answer you. Further to that we don't know where you
are located and we don't know whether you meant "suppliers in your
area" or suppliers "anywhere in the world".

If you want the largest suppliers capable of supplying almost any
components or tool used in electronics in the US then perhaps Mouser,
and in Canada Allied, and in the UK/Australia/NZ then RS Components.
There are literally thousands of other suppliers which may or may not
suit your needs but we can't exactly guess what you are looking for.

How do you think all the current electronics engineers/techs managed
to discover the intricacies of electronics and where to get components
when they were newbies? They didn't have the internet where they could
absolve all care and the requirement for research off their own bat by
simply jumping onto a NG and typing some inane question. They had to
buy electronics magazines and books and read as much as they could to
get the basics and then go to tech school to learn more. Only when
they felt a bit confident of their knowledge were they then prepared
to ask a question or two of a more experienced electronics boffin or
instructor face to face at a technical/trade school. The internet has
made it too simple and too convenient for anyone without even the
basic knowledge of what electronics components are and how they work
to take to the keyboard and try to get detailed instructions as to how
to buy, prototype and construct a project - often one of such
complexity that only a technician with many years of technical
experience and accumulated knowledge would attempt.



Every post that I make results in some smartass worthless post. I already
admitted that I'm new at this what else do you want? If I knew all this
stuff then I wouldn't be asking for help. I'm trying to learn and if you
are unwilling to teach then I would suggest you not reply to my posts. I
belong and lurk at many other boards and they don't (for the most part) have
these worthless responses. Those newsgroups help each other and are
understanding and helpful to the newbies. This group just keeps knocking
the newbie down. I get it, I'm new and you are all electronic gods. "How
dare the little old newbie ask a question, hes not worthy to talk to the
likes of me."

Since your posts, by your own admission, seem to attract what you call
"smartass worthless posts" perhaps you should be asking yourself the
question "just who is marching out of step?" And, if you are honest,
you might even come to the conclusion that it could be yourself and
not the people who are responding to your posts.

Firstly, I was trying to help on your specific problem, but suddenly
you chucked a wobbly and steered off at a tangent in the middle of the
thread and stated asking a general question about component suppliers.

As John Fields has inferred, since you admit you are a newbie then
perhaps you should not be posting in this NG, but more appropriately
in science.electronics.basics.


I don't need this. I'll just stay with asking the electical engineer at
work. I was trying not to bother him but when I started get worthless
responses I went ahead and asked and he, unlike the people here, was more
than willing to help, even with his super busy schedule. He even gave me an
old breadboard that he had. Today I asked about sources for "PCB components
for making my first board" and he gave me a two huge catalogs. He didn't
give me **** about not asking a specific question. Its so nice to find
someone willing to help I wish I could have found it here.

Your query about "PCB components" is so general that you might have
dispensed with the "PCB" and simply asked about "components". As I
have said, virtually ALL common electronic components can be PCB
mounted, so you weren't helping yourself at all with such an inane
question. Now if you had asked about SMD components (since these can
only be mounted on PCB's) then it would have made more sense but even
then not very specific. You could have expanded a bit more by
specifying such things as resistors, capacitors or active components
such as discrete semiconductors or IC's. Now each of these groupings
contains subgroups pertaining to more specialised applications and
uses and it is impossible to provide an answer to your query without
that information.

The reason the engineer at work simply gave you the catalogue to look
at was that since you didn't exactly know what you were looking for
then perhaps by researching the catalogue you would be able to ask
about specific components you were interested in. It would have been
impossible for him to spend the time answering your questions which
may have been pointless before you looked at the catalogue. Then
before asking on the NG you should have used Google and located
suppliers local to your area where you could at least look at the
components even if you didn't want to buy. Thats what I and many other
newbies had to do when we were learning.

Ross, I do appreciate the links you provided. They helped and I did
understand serial vs. parallel but at least the link verified that. You
were the closest to being helpful.

As for the rest of the group, its just not worth it. You people are so
negative and unhelpful that its really sad. I'm unsubscribing from this
"I'm better than you" group. If anyone wants to be friendly and actually
helpful you may contact me directly. I'm the most friendly guy you'll ever
meet when I not being ridiculed!

"Ross Herbert" wrote in message
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On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 03:00:00 GMT, "SBFan2000"
wrote:

Anyone got a good supplier for PCB components! I'm looking at a couple
but
was wondering what others are using?


I am sorry to have to say this but when you ask such an open ended,
non-specific question such as this I wonder how you managed to get
this far on the NG without somebody jumping on you. I mean - "PCB
components" have been around even before the PCB was first devised.

Thats interesting, the "PCB component" was around BEFORE the PCB! That must
have been hard for people having all these "PCB components" and not having
anywhere to put them or for that matter even knowing what a PCB was. I
would suggest that they may not have been called "PCB components" if the PCB
didn't yet exist.

YOu haven't been listening. Components such as axial resistors and
capacitors have been around since the dawn of modern electronics. They
weren't initially intended to be mounted on PCB's because those
mounting methods hadn't yet been devised. Nevertheless, when the PCB
was subsequently introduced, those very same components were able to
be mounted on the PCB. The ONLY components which might properly be
called "PCB Components" are those intended for surface mounting, since
it is impracticable to mount them on anything but a PCB.

Virtually any passive component (resistor, capacitor, inductor,
transformer etc) can be PCB mounted.

Thereby making them a "PCB component" and a subject of my request. Perhaps
you could have suggested a place to purchase them.


Sure, but where are you located? Am I supposed to just guess? For
example I live in Perth, Australia but it probably doesn't help you
much if I tell you Altronics http://www.altronics.com.au/ or Jaycar
http://www.jaycar.com.au/ or RS Components http://www.rsaustralia.com/

RS do however have distributors inthe US but there are so many to
choose from so I can't help more than this.

Before PCB's, components were
mounted on stripboard or bare phenolic or fibreglass board with
soldered wire links. The very same components can also be mounted on
PCB's.

If you want help then you have to be more specific because there are a
million places which anyone who has even the vaguest interest in
electronics will know of. Why don't you just try Googling for
electronic components of the type you need?

I have! Imagine that! I've found most of what I need but would rather
place one or two orders from large suppliers instead of 10-15 little guys!
Hence the question.

You weren't specific enough.


YOu need to think more logically before putting fingers to the
keyboard.

And you need to stick to the question asked or ask a polite counter
question.

My reply certainly was critical of you but you didn't pose the
question in a way which said you wanted to buy all your components
from one supplier. Heck, even large suppliers can't supply everything
needed for a specific project. That's why a project design team will
usually have a person with precise and specific knowledge of nothing
else but components and where to source them. As many as 6 or more
suppliers may be needed to source all the items needed in a design.
The engineers design the stuff and then tell the components man what
they need and he has to go out and find it at the same time as
considering second and even third sourcing in case one supplier dries
up or goes bust or one manufacturer stops producing.


EVERYONE HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS!


And the same to you.