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Owain wrote:
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A small army of uk.d-i-y regulars have expressed the desire to scavenge
at the dump in the UK but are prevented from doing so by H&S regulations.

is that truth or excuse though? How hard is it to sign a preprinted
waiver?


A waiver *might* indemnify the tip operator against a civil claim but
would not prevent the criminal prosecution under H&SAWA.

In any activity in the workplace there has to be a risk assessment:

Is there a risk of injury or death to the public if they are allowed on
the tip? -- Yes.

How can that risk be reduced? -- Don't allow public on the tip.


What do you mean by 'on the tip' The idea is to give access to goods
_destined_ for landfill. This can be done by putting goods on flatback
forkliftable platforms that buyers can pick from, not climb over.


How hard is it to buy electrical goods after showing evidence
of being in the trade? Etc.


Apart from H&SAWA there is all the legislation around only conveying
'waste' between licensed waste handlers. What happens to the 'waste'
when it becomes 'useful' again I don't know.


If an item is bought and sold it is by definition not waste.


And why is laying out the possibly saleable rubbish so much more
hazardous than it is when its done at jumble sales, second hand goods
shops and so on? I'm far from convinced.


Jumble sales and the like are done by people wanting to sell things for
money. Council tips are run by councils.

Owain


No, theyre run by private contractors. These contractors could openly
take orders for goods, sell from a long table like platform, and each
platformful could be checked by an inspector before being opened to the
public. Yes it costs, and yes theres a financial return. They'd do best
out of bulk orders for trade. Advertising onsite that such orders are
taken would encourage more business.

In short, permitting free trade would reduce landfill and make lots of
good goods available for businesses and end users alike.

If the issues of dealing with public direct were insurmountable, which
I doubt, trade lots are still workable.


NT