David Combs wrote:
Am looking for heavy-duty **warm** work-pants, and can't
so far find much somewhat near the top of a google search.

Years and years (30?) ago I bought such a pair, outside
made of something strong, like canvas, maybe, with a quilted
semi-sweat-impermeable-covered thickish lining.

So tough that I probably could have walked through a
patch of catclaw without tearing it.

And WARM.

Partly due to the lining, and partly (or mainly?) due to
the *weight* of the material, which helps lower *radiative*
heat loss.

These days, however, I seem to find only cheap, thin stuff,
(easy to tear, wear holes into, etc)
and if with lining, then only with "fleece", which in my
experience will stretch and of course provides a ZERO
*radiative* heat-loss barrier.


QUESTION: In northern Minnesota or Alaska, say, what do
outdoor workers wear?

Or steel-workers 50 stories up, with wind-chill at -30 --
what do *they* wear?



Brands, places, prices?


THANKS!


David


David-

As another posted suggested

carhartt, sturdy work clothes

http://www.carhartt.com/webapp/wcs/s...atalogId=10101

http://www.carhartt.com/webapp/wcs/s...tegoryId=10908

They make lots of different styles because it depends on the person,
what you're doing; how much mobility you want & the weather conditions

You can keep yourself warm with enough layers of any clothing but if
you're wrapped up like the Michelin tire man...it's gonna be hard to
move effectively

YEARS ago I had occasion to work outside in Ohio near the lake (luckily
I was younger then) I used insulated overalls (bib style) with long
underwear (uppers only) & a lighter jacket to mantain upper body
mobility.

I doubt I could stand that setup now but it worked great for me, back
then

Full insulated overalls can be a good choice but if you've got to
integrate fall protection into the setup....it leads back to bib
overalls w/ long jonhn shirt & another outer shirt. JMHO

In mountain areas (fall/ early winter) of California the guys seem to
settle on bib overalls & long sleeve pullover shirts (& of course, hard
hats & harness)

The concept is...keep the legs & trunk warm (feet too with insulated
boots or regular boots oversized for thick socks.)

........the arms will get warmed by circulation

If the weather gets colder or windy they add some sort of knit ski type
"helmet" under their hard hats

I use a........

http://gear-west.stores.yahoo.net/tufurfrma.html

keeps the bald spot on the top of my head from shedding all my heat



you low level activity standing, walking, sitting outdoors

a Polarwarp heat exchange mask

http://workingperson.com/products/85...Mask_FHCB.html

has some value but if you're really exerting yourself..IMO it's too
restrictive for adequate breathing

here are some "test drive" reports

http://www.backpackgeartest.org/revi...p%20Exchanger/

hth

cheers
Bob