"Christian McArdle" wrote in message
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So don't buy a Victorian house, then. Simple job solved. Will everyone
who hates wooden windows please **** out of the conservation areas or
just lump it?

Why? They might like the rest of the place, or it might be will situated
for their needs but they don't want to be living in the past. Wooden
windows belong in the past.

Why? Because the majority of the residents say so. Society says you can't
go round murdering people. Society also says that in conservation areas,
you can't have uPVC windows. If you don't like society, live on a desert
island. The fact is that conservation areas are created because the
residents of these areas want their area to look good. They can help
ensure this by accepting planning restrictions in return for banning
tasteless individuals installing inappropriate improvements. Even better,
it discourages them from owning such fine properties to wreck in the first
place.

There is a difference. Murdering someone is directly affecting them.
Choosing unslightly ( your view) windows is not. How far should you take
it? I happen to think that fiat motor-cars are very ugly. If I lived near
you should I be able to tell you not to buy one and place it on your
property? How about if I didn't like the look for your partner? Should
they be banned from the area to save my distress from looking at them.

So they are filled with snobs? I wouldn't want to live amongst such
snobs.

Excellent. Then I won't be afflicted by your appalling taste.

Either you are a troll or one of the biggest snobs I have ever encountered.

You might also find out that depite his lov for PVC windows he's richer
than you?

Almost certainly, I certainly wouldn't regard myself as rich. We're
probably the poorest people on the street.

Perhaps it's envy that drives people to behave like this.

"Envy" is always the last claim of people without taste or refinement. I
DO NOT envy wanky manky plastic windows. They are the spawn of satan in
period properties.

They might evey his being able to afford them - not saying it applies to
you, but it often does to these petty people (not you). It's similar to
people saying I wouldn't want a big house/ Rolls Royce when they can't
afford one but want to pull another (wo)man's achievements down.

They see someone who can afford to install modern windows when they
can't so they make something up.

I've just installed a couple of sliding wooden sashes. They cost 3 times
as much as manky plastic windows. Unfortunately, a previous owner has
fitted manky plastic windows in our house. We are gradually going around
fixing up the remaining original windows and replacing the manky plastic
as funds allow.

Fair enough. If you don't like the things you shouldn't have to have them.
But how would you like it if your neighbours told you to install nasty
plastic ones against your will.

Plastic windows are cheap **** and need just as much maintenance as wooden
ones. OK wooden ones need repainting every 7 years. Plastic ones need
wholesale replacement every 15, if you're lucky.

Not what I've found. When we had wooden frames thy need painting every few
years and even then rot was a problem. They've also got the possibiltiy of
warping or sah cords breaking. Furthermore, someone who has weak arms may
not be able to easily open sash windows - I've seen many that I've
struggeled to open, and I'm not particularly weak.
You should be looking at 25+yrs from modern, good-quality windows.

Christian.