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J. Clarke wrote:
"Prometheus" wrote in message
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... Next might be home-grown militia
groups- I don't care for them, and chances are you don't either.


So what home-grown militia groups are composed entirely of aliens?


Absent habeas corpus, how would one prove citizenship?

....

So what's a guy operating on a green card doing running a union? If they
want to arrest alien reporters I don't have any problem with that.


And I have no problem with arresting reporters who are citizens,
so long as the arresting agent can demonstrate probable cause.

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You must, I repeat, must, respect and defend the right of Habeus
Corpus in EVERY SINGLE instance. If you don't, one day your head
could be the one on the chopping block- and you will have no say in
the matter, having given your right to defend yourself away long
before. You might see the value of the right to see and challenge the
evidence against you then- but of course, that knowledge will have
come too late.


If you're a noncitizen.


There are two habeas corpi. One, is created by Federal Statute
and can be removed or modified by Federal Statute. The other,
sometimes called the Great Writ, is embodied in the Constitution
itself and my only be set aside by the Congress, and then only
in cases of invasion or rebellion, neither of which is currently
applicable.
The Great Write, which dates back to the Magna Carta, has always
been available to aliens on US soil.


Have you actually _READ_ the "Military Commissions Act" and not just what
some netloon has said about it? It applies specifically and _only_ to
"aliens" who are defined in the act as persons who are not US citizens.
Futher, every version of it that I could find that was considered by the
Congress had that same restriction.

The full text of the legislation may be found at
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/.../~c109vNo5G3:: .

Note specifically

"Sec. 948c. Persons subject to military commissions
Any alien unlawful enemy combatant is subject to trial by military
commission under this chapter."

Also note

"Sec. 948a. Definitions
In this chapter:
(3) ALIEN- The term 'alien' means a person who is not a citizen of the
United States."
If you're going to whinge at least have the courtesy to whinge about
something that somebody actually did or was trying to do.


Again, absent habeas corpus, how would a citizen accused of
being an alien, proof he was not?

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