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Jeffrey M. Borning
 
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"Bob Swinney" wrote in message
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Are you certain the wiring connections are all tight? Loose fitting
temporary clip leads could be a problem.


I removed all the wire nuts from the compressor motor, straightened the
strands and redid them. Didn't make a bit of difference that I could tell.

Are you using at least #14 wire
between the rotary and the compressor motor? Use #10 here if running more
than a few feet.


I have the compressor connected to the phase converter with 10 ft. of 10-4
AWG SO cord. I wanted to use 8 AWG, but I had the 10AWG on hand and I was
anxious to try out my new toy. Now I think I will buy some 6 AWG. The
converter is wired with left over 8AWG THHN except the caps, which are
paralleled with 10AWG to terminal strips. I am thinking of going to copper
bus bars instead of terminal strips.

Are you really sure the compressor is properly "unloading"
for starting. 135 psi sounds like a high pressure to start against.


The compressor is unloading. At first I thought it wasn't, but the unloader
exhaust is plumbed into the air intake and is silenced by the air filter. I
removed the line to the intake and I could hear the "pssshh" when the motor
shut down at 175 psi. But...,this is a mechanical unloader which uses
weights that are activated by centrifugal force to close the unloader valve
(which is like a schraeder valve). After about 3 or 4 revolutions, the
weights are advanced enough to close the unloader valve. I removed one of
the two adjusting shims and it didn't seem to help. I will try removing the
other. I doubt if it will help, though, as the motor needs to overcome the
pump inertia and come up to full speed before pumping any pressure. A friend
at work has a big 3 phase compressor running from a home made phase
converter and he says his unloader takes a lot longer to close. I suspect he
has a oil pressure activated unloader. I was thinking (and another poster
has just suggested it), that I should use a time delay relay and a solenoid
valve to delay the unloader's closing until the motor is up to speed.

The other thought would be to add another phase converter or use a larger
idler motor. I read on the GWM phase converter site that ePact motors on
compressors may not work very well with rotary phase converters and may
require a 4X idler size. I even thought of using 3 separate identical phase
converters with the generated leg going to a different terminal on the
compressor. But this sound like a lot of complicated contraptions.

The last solution that I toyed with is to reduce the motor pulley diameter.
The pump on the compressor is used with 5, 7.5 and 10HP motors with
different sized pulleys. By dropping down to the 7.5 HP size pulley, my CFM
would go drop from 35 cfm to 27 cfm at 175 psi. Hopefully the motor would
have enough torque to spin against the load. This kind of negates getting
such a big compressor, but at a distress sale, I got a new deluxe 10HP with
intercooler and after cooler for the same price that I would have of had to
pay for a 7.5HP single phase compressor with smaller tank.

What follows is opinion and is unsupported by any practical experience on

my
part:

Consider addding permanent capacitance to the air
compressor motor, connected across L 1-3 and L 2-3. Make sure this
capacitance is connected directly to the compressor's motor, downstream

from
the compressor's on/off switch. Begin with, say, 200 ufd in each leg.
Observe the compressor's starting "labor" and increase capacitance as
indicated. If enough capacitance is added to facilitate proper starting,
make sure that running voltages are no more than 15% higher than line in.


Adding more capacitance accross the compressor motor would be no different
than having them in the phase converter as far as the compressor is
concerned, right? But other connected loads on the converter wouldn't see
the high voltage, so I guess that may be an good option. My only other 3
phase load at this time is the 1HP Bridgeport mill, which spins up nicely -
even in high gear!

Thanks,
Jeff Borning