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Doug Miller wrote:
"RicodJour" wrote:

Does your pursuit of the truth include reading the autobiography of a
man you obviously hate? If so, read Carter's autobiography. Whether
or not you approved of his leadership, the events that took place
during his administration, whatever, it doesn't matter - he wasn't
incompetent and he wasn't a boob.


Carter did nothing when our embassy was invaded by armed thugs acting with the
approval and complicity of their government -- and even stated publicly that
he was ruling out the use of military force to rescue our people who were
being held hostage.

And you call that competent?? I don't.

And that's just for starters.


Gee, doesn't that just **** you off? A guy who walks the walk instead
of just talking it.

This from one web site:
"Jimmy Carter was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2002 for his
"decades of untiring effort to find peaceful solution to international
conflicts, to advance democracy and human rights, and to promote
economic and social development."" The only other US Presidents to
receive the Nobel Peace Prize were Roosevelt in 1906 and Wilson in
1919. Probably safe to say that Bush won't be holding his breath
waiting for a nomination.

What exactly did you expect Carter to do? Conduct Operation Shock and
Awe, the beta version? A rescue mission was attempted - it failed and
eight people died in the attempt. There were 52 hostages that were in
captivity for the entire 15 months. None of the hostages were killed.

Carter imposed sanctions, worked the diplomacy and kept the hostages
alive. Reagan won the election and promptly bought off Iran by
releasing $8 billion in Iranian assets and gave immunity to Iran which
prevented the hostages from collecting after they sued Iran. In other
words he bought off Iran and sold out the hostages.

Suppose Carter/Reagan did send in the Marines. How many Marines do you
figure would have been killed in such a rescue? How many hostages?

The objective in the hostage situation was getting them out alive.
Carter and Reagan did. Reagan's job was made a lot easier as Iran was
now at war with Iraq and was more willing to negotiate with a new
President willing to give them a large sum of money and immunity.

No hostages lost their lives, no billions spent on a war on foreign
soil, no "street cred" lost for the US. You might want to choose a
different example on which to base your allegation of Carter's
incompetence.

R