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Speaking of concrete and shops...For you fellows with in-floor radiant heat
with the PEX type tubing, do any of you have an auto lift or anything else
drilled and bolted into the floor? If so what preparations did you make
beforehand? I live in NC and am considering this type of heating, along with
a gas pack for quick heat-up, but I like to bolt some of my workshop tools
down. I know I could map the PEX zones, but there may be other ideas. I'm
off work 3 days a week, so I would use the radiant heat for extended shop
projects, and the gas pack for short stays. Any other ideas on this? Also,
another of the best things I have ever spent time and money on was a hoist
monorail across the ceiling of my present shop. In this shop, there is a
door on each side so that I can do a drive through with a trailer load of
goods, and unload onto dollys with a chain hoist. It also runs across my
in-floor bike lift to allow me to pull bike front ends, and across my
welding table to allow me to handle heavy weldments. Car engines are pulled
in the drive through area. Larger weldments are built in this zone to allow
flipping over with the hoist. The 32 foot long 6" I beam is supported on
each end by a 4" pipe post, with 1/2" B7 rods tapped into 1"tall 1-1/2"
diameter hot rolled adaptor sockets welded to the top of the beam every 2
feet, protruding up through the trusses. A 2X4 clamping plate is running
along the top of the bottom chord of the trusses, at the triangulation
point, using flat bar washers, lockwashers, and nuts through drilled holes
to clamp the beam to the trusses, making it "somewhat" mutually supporting.
It was tested by measuring to the floor, then picking up the front end of a
66 Impala in mid-air, then checking deflection in the middle. It's been in
service for 23 years, and has made me thousands of dollars in being able to
handle machines to resell by myself. Heavier items like mills and such are
unloaded by using a pair of adjustable stiff knees, one on each side of the
trailer to localize the support, then I just drive out from under it. There
are 3 trolleys with various hoists on them. My soon -to-be new shop will not
be without something similar.

RJ

"Toolbert" wrote in message
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"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message
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The need to have a smooth flat surface along the access path to your
shop where you will roll items in and out is a real one.


Concrete... I'm happy with the way our new place worked out.

Previously
had a concrete driveway apron with exposed-aggregate finish that was

pretty
but not helpful for rolling any kind of steel or other small wheel.

For the new place we got a "light broom" finish, that is a tradeoff

because
it will eventually wear smooth enough to possibly be a hazard, but it sure
is easier on the wheels.

Same here, the shop slab is flat and extends 6" past the door, then
transitions in-line to the apron. There is no step or joint, just poured
against the edge of the slab, it has held up OK for 4 years.

The overhead door is a 9' wide x 8' high that is under a 24" overhang and

is
on the lee side of the building anyway. No water entry to date.

8' out from the door, before the apron slab was poured I set two pieces of
4" sched 40 electrical conduit in footings and plumbed them carefully.
Plated welded to the bottom, the open end is about 12" above the slab.
After the slab was poured, they served as sockets for a lift frame built
with 3-1/2" sched 40 pipe and a wide-flange beam. The 3-1/2" pipe
eventually got welded to the 4".

There's a good photo he

http://www.metalworking.com/DropBox/...iles/beam6.jpg

The scaffold in the photo had just been used to erect the frame, a rush

job
so we could get that lathe out of the back of my truck.

I tend to like to put alot of wire in a building. I (over)wired my
building for power (single/3-phase with over sized wire), alarm, high
speed ethernet, video and telephone. Along with this, I installed
copper for air and a dust collecting system.


My evil twin brother apparently.

The fact that PVC fails dramatically while copper will fail gracefully
is enough reason for me to pay the extra price for copper.


Having done a bit of research ... after the fact ... for air I have a few
hundred feet of 3/4" sched 40 PVC underground, bedded in sand.

Transitions
to hard copper or galvanized steel before turning up towards the surface.
Black pipe or copper above ground & in walls.

If you have a large access door, make sure you have it wide and HIGH
enough to roll your lifting device with load through it. I have a
gantry crane (1 ton) that is too high to roll through my 8 foot high
access door in my shop. I should have seen that problem before I built


I chose a 2nd story instead of a high ceiling. For indoors, I use a

pallet
jack, a set of machine moving carriages or as last resort a cheap engine
hoist.

Bob