Todd H. wrote:
writes:

Todd H. wrote:
Does signing this mean , I cannot make a direct deal with the owner now?
(minus the agent)

You couldn't make a direct deal with the owner anyway. When a
property is listed for sale by a realtor, the owner and realtor are
under a listing contract. If the house sells, it sells via the agent,
and they get a commission regardless of how you ended up finding this
house.

The only way around that would be to wait until the listing period
expired, and whatever grace period afterwards and if the property
weren't listed and was then FSBO, then maybe you could deal direct
with the owner. Hoewver, by signing this agreement, the realtor if
they found out you ultimatley bought the place, could come back to the
owner and demand commission because the place ultimately sold to
someone who originally came in under their listing agreement.

Or some crap like that.


What evidence is there that this simple disclosure document obligates
the buyer to pay any commission beyond what is specified in the listing
contract between the seller and the agent?

What evidence is there that I said anything about the buyer paying the
commission?

Reread.

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Todd H.
http://www.toddh.net/



Well, you're right, you didn't say the buyer may have to pay the
commission because of signing a disclosure document, that's there to
inform him that the agent works for the seller.

Here's what you did say:

The only way around that would be to wait until the listing period
expired, and whatever grace period afterwards and if the property
weren't listed and was then FSBO, then maybe you could deal direct
with the owner. Hoewver, by signing this agreement, the realtor if
they found out you ultimatley bought the place, could come back to the
owner and demand commission because the place ultimately sold to
someone who originally came in under their listing agreement.
Or some crap like that.

Which means what you did say makes even less sense, because now you're
asserting that because a prospective buyer signed a simple disclosure
document, it's now going to change the contract the agent has with the
seller to pay a commission. Whether the seller owes a commission, for
how long he's bound, exclusions, etc are covered by the contract
between the seller and the agent and aren't gonna be ammended by a
buyer signing a disclosure.